Faith, Family, Freedom with Entrepreneur Don Abod

1 00:00:01,290 --> 00:00:02,880 Here's the million dollar question. 2 00:00:03,390 --> 00:00:07,050 How do men like us reach our full potential and grow into the men we 3 00:00:07,050 --> 00:00:10,960 dream of being while taking care of our responsibilities, working, 4 00:00:11,370 --> 00:00:15,870 being good husbands, fathers, and still take care of ourselves? 5 00:00:16,740 --> 00:00:18,450 That's the question in this podcast. 6 00:00:18,750 --> 00:00:20,040 We'll help you with those answers. 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,130 My name is Brent and welcome to the Fallible Man podcast. 8 00:00:23,130 --> 00:00:25,050 Welcome to the Fallible Man Podcast, your home for all 9 00:00:25,050 --> 00:00:26,580 things, man, husband, and father. 10 00:00:26,585 --> 00:00:30,330 My name is Brent, and my special guest today is Don Abad. 11 00:00:30,570 --> 00:00:31,640 Don, welcome 12 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:32,580 to the show. 13 00:00:33,510 --> 00:00:33,930 Hey, Brent. 14 00:00:33,935 --> 00:00:34,320 Good to see 15 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:34,500 you. 16 00:00:35,610 --> 00:00:36,390 I appreciate you. 17 00:00:36,390 --> 00:00:36,960 Check in. 18 00:00:37,020 --> 00:00:40,050 Don is checking in with us from the other side of the world, so it is 19 00:00:40,050 --> 00:00:43,800 the middle of the night for him, so I'm grateful for being able to sync 20 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,220 up and do this show with you, man. 21 00:00:45,231 --> 00:00:46,041 Yeah, I appreciate it. 22 00:00:46,108 --> 00:00:48,801 Don, I don't do big introductions. 23 00:00:48,851 --> 00:00:52,931 I used to, I stopped doing it because I get to research you guys before the show. 24 00:00:53,636 --> 00:00:57,536 That just doesn't really convey to my audience who you are. 25 00:00:57,896 --> 00:01:00,206 So, in your own words, who is Donna bod? 26 00:01:00,290 --> 00:01:04,400 I always like to preface this answer with, I wear a lot of hats, 27 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:09,590 but I'm a storyteller at heart because I think as really, as far 28 00:01:09,590 --> 00:01:14,270 as I remember, I never wanted to be put into a box, and I don't think 29 00:01:14,270 --> 00:01:16,430 anybody could ever put me into a box. 30 00:01:16,730 --> 00:01:19,850 I remember, you know the question that we always get asked as a kid, 31 00:01:19,850 --> 00:01:21,110 What do you wanna be when you grow up? 32 00:01:22,130 --> 00:01:23,960 I could never answer that question. 33 00:01:24,260 --> 00:01:27,710 I asked my mom one time, What's a career? 34 00:01:27,740 --> 00:01:33,770 What's the profession that you can basically hop in and out of whatever role 35 00:01:33,890 --> 00:01:35,881 you want, at a whim, at a moment's notice? 36 00:01:36,631 --> 00:01:40,321 And I remember her giving me the answer that scientists are 37 00:01:40,321 --> 00:01:41,491 able to do whatever they want. 38 00:01:41,491 --> 00:01:44,641 And I think looking back, I think she meant that there are 39 00:01:44,641 --> 00:01:46,141 different types of scientists. 40 00:01:46,141 --> 00:01:48,271 So I could choose what type of scientist I want it to be. 41 00:01:48,976 --> 00:01:53,776 But in my little six year old brainer, whatever it was, however old I was, I 42 00:01:53,776 --> 00:01:57,466 thought that meant that as a scientist, if I became a scientist, I could be a 43 00:01:57,466 --> 00:02:00,976 race car driver one day, then I, if I got bored of that, I could be a scuba 44 00:02:00,976 --> 00:02:04,246 diver, then I can be an astronaut, that an engineer, whatever I wanted to do. 45 00:02:04,546 --> 00:02:06,556 And so I thought I'd be a scientist. 46 00:02:06,796 --> 00:02:10,786 And entrepreneurship was never something that was, it 47 00:02:10,786 --> 00:02:12,166 wasn't in anyone's vocabulary. 48 00:02:12,166 --> 00:02:14,229 I mean, this was the the mid nineties. 49 00:02:14,589 --> 00:02:18,699 So I discovered later on that I had that entrepreneurial bone. 50 00:02:18,699 --> 00:02:23,894 And that's really the type of personality that can't be fit into a box anyway. 51 00:02:23,894 --> 00:02:26,864 But it was a long journey of self discovery. 52 00:02:27,284 --> 00:02:30,895 And I'm also in the arts particularly filmmaking. 53 00:02:30,895 --> 00:02:31,868 That's my passion. 54 00:02:32,438 --> 00:02:36,896 I love writing stories, telling stories, and somewhere along the line I took 55 00:02:36,896 --> 00:02:40,756 up my dad's what you call a VH camera for your younger listeners out there. 56 00:02:40,756 --> 00:02:43,156 It's a ancient piece of technology. 57 00:02:43,156 --> 00:02:47,069 I'd take that VHS camera and I'd go to school and I just video my friends 58 00:02:47,090 --> 00:02:50,435 just take them doing some skit that I cooked up in my head the night before. 59 00:02:50,435 --> 00:02:51,245 And I love it. 60 00:02:51,455 --> 00:02:54,858 I just love the art and craft of taking something for my head and 61 00:02:54,858 --> 00:02:56,838 making it real in a visual format. 62 00:02:56,838 --> 00:03:00,089 So filmmaking is stuck with me all my life, and I'm still doing it somewhat. 63 00:03:00,094 --> 00:03:02,952 Now, of course, with the pandemics it's a little tough to really get some projects 64 00:03:02,952 --> 00:03:05,712 going, especially here in the Philippines where we still have a lot of restrictions. 65 00:03:05,982 --> 00:03:10,165 But anyway there was a point where, you know, the word struggling 66 00:03:10,165 --> 00:03:15,205 artist is a cliche for a reason because I like so many people who 67 00:03:15,205 --> 00:03:16,675 are in the arts who are creatives. 68 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,385 I didn't know how to monetize my passions. 69 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,530 And unfortunately asking other people around wasn't really a big help because 70 00:03:24,130 --> 00:03:28,120 really the path that I want to take in life was unusual from the very beginning. 71 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,905 I remember asking one of my professors in university well, he 72 00:03:30,905 --> 00:03:33,245 asked me the same question, What do you want to be when you grow up? 73 00:03:33,245 --> 00:03:34,655 What do you wanna do after you graduate? 74 00:03:35,045 --> 00:03:38,885 And I answered filmmaking and then he took one look at me and then he said, 75 00:03:39,155 --> 00:03:40,475 So you don't wanna make any money. 76 00:03:41,045 --> 00:03:45,665 And I knew he was half joking, but jokes are half meant anyway. 77 00:03:45,725 --> 00:03:47,564 And it didn't, deter me or anything. 78 00:03:47,564 --> 00:03:50,954 But again, that's why it took me a long time to really find my flow and 79 00:03:51,194 --> 00:03:52,634 what I wanted to do professionally. 80 00:03:52,639 --> 00:03:54,016 And fast forward a little bit. 81 00:03:54,016 --> 00:03:58,006 I met my wife and her, she and her family have been involved in the 82 00:03:58,006 --> 00:04:00,275 network marketing industry for 10 years. 83 00:04:00,275 --> 00:04:02,503 At the time we met, that was seven years ago. 84 00:04:02,953 --> 00:04:05,743 And I knew about network marketing. 85 00:04:05,743 --> 00:04:08,473 The Philippines is basically the mecca for network marketing. 86 00:04:08,473 --> 00:04:11,233 I've been pitched left and right by every opportunity under the sun. 87 00:04:11,443 --> 00:04:13,153 And my mom's in one, actually. 88 00:04:13,195 --> 00:04:13,885 big company. 89 00:04:14,365 --> 00:04:17,765 I knew the business model worked, but as a filmmaker, I thought it wasn't for me. 90 00:04:17,765 --> 00:04:22,377 But when my wife took me to one of her conventions I discovered people just like 91 00:04:22,377 --> 00:04:27,485 myself, young guys at the time filmmakers, artists even got, C-Suite people. 92 00:04:27,485 --> 00:04:31,995 We got engineers, architects, accountants, all walks of life, single, married 93 00:04:32,015 --> 00:04:36,074 and I realized that all of these people, they had one thing in common. 94 00:04:36,254 --> 00:04:39,554 It's not that they're natural business people or math people 95 00:04:39,554 --> 00:04:41,714 are logical, melancholic people. 96 00:04:41,804 --> 00:04:45,224 They had a dream and they wanted to find a vehicle and mentorship to make 97 00:04:45,224 --> 00:04:47,204 it whatever that dream is a reality. 98 00:04:47,414 --> 00:04:49,064 And that basically sucked me in. 99 00:04:49,064 --> 00:04:50,444 And I don't wanna go into too much detail. 100 00:04:50,444 --> 00:04:53,781 You can ask me later on if you wanna talk about my experience in the industry. 101 00:04:53,781 --> 00:04:57,606 But suffice it to say that really drew me down the the 102 00:04:57,611 --> 00:04:59,166 rabbit hole of entrepreneurship. 103 00:04:59,376 --> 00:05:01,536 And now I sort of combined both of my passions. 104 00:05:01,536 --> 00:05:04,656 I discovered that, business is a passion of mine. 105 00:05:05,211 --> 00:05:10,010 And I combined that with my love of film and now I run a creative agency. 106 00:05:10,010 --> 00:05:16,201 And and really my, one of my big missions is to empower and to educate and to 107 00:05:16,201 --> 00:05:22,141 inspire people like myself struggling artists to consider entrepreneurship 108 00:05:22,141 --> 00:05:25,951 because I think that's the missing link with so many people like myself. 109 00:05:25,951 --> 00:05:28,981 There's so many talented people with amazing stories to tell, but they just 110 00:05:28,981 --> 00:05:31,111 don't know how to monetize that story. 111 00:05:31,351 --> 00:05:34,651 And in this world, I think we need more voices being uplifted. 112 00:05:34,891 --> 00:05:39,571 And the sovereign brand, which I'm sure we'll talk about later on, is really 113 00:05:39,811 --> 00:05:44,641 built for that as a platform to inspire other artists and really anybody who 114 00:05:44,641 --> 00:05:47,461 has a message to share, no matter what their background or profession 115 00:05:47,461 --> 00:05:51,661 is, to be able to create a platform, build a brand, and tell that story. 116 00:05:52,621 --> 00:05:53,011 Okay, 117 00:05:54,751 --> 00:05:57,541 so here's the hard question of the show, right? 118 00:05:57,541 --> 00:05:58,981 If you can handle this, you got everything. 119 00:05:59,771 --> 00:06:01,018 What's your favorite ice cream? 120 00:06:01,037 --> 00:06:04,817 The first thing that popped into my mind is chicken flavored ice cream. 121 00:06:06,317 --> 00:06:08,807 It's a long story, but here in the Philippines we got 122 00:06:08,807 --> 00:06:10,547 some weird ice cream flavors. 123 00:06:10,727 --> 00:06:15,203 My dad always brings up all these exotic flavors and brings these 124 00:06:15,283 --> 00:06:17,656 ice creams home that you'd never find anywhere else in the world. 125 00:06:19,036 --> 00:06:20,696 I'll keep it simple and say Rocky Road 126 00:06:20,700 --> 00:06:21,836 . I'm, now I'm of all 127 00:06:21,836 --> 00:06:24,551 the, of all the exotic flavors I'll settle on Rocky Road. 128 00:06:25,061 --> 00:06:25,781 I'm really curious. 129 00:06:25,781 --> 00:06:27,131 Now, is chicken ice 130 00:06:27,131 --> 00:06:27,911 cream actually a thing? 131 00:06:28,901 --> 00:06:30,431 It is actually a thing. 132 00:06:30,761 --> 00:06:31,391 Wow. 133 00:06:31,751 --> 00:06:32,111 Okay. 134 00:06:32,561 --> 00:06:35,661 Here at least, I don't know if it exists in any other part of the world. 135 00:06:35,688 --> 00:06:36,558 That's very original. 136 00:06:36,558 --> 00:06:37,651 I've heard a lot of things. 137 00:06:38,071 --> 00:06:41,838 The only other thing that even came close is there was a burnt fig and 138 00:06:41,898 --> 00:06:47,895 almond that's some really high end thing in Sydney that one of my guests likes. 139 00:06:49,230 --> 00:06:52,200 I was like, I, I don't even, I can't even imagine that. 140 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,590 So yeah, Rock Road is a great flavor. 141 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,110 Chicken ice cream is definitely an interesting idea. 142 00:06:59,220 --> 00:07:01,290 But hey, that's one of the cool things about talking to people 143 00:07:01,290 --> 00:07:04,950 internationally is you get to explore a whole new world out there. 144 00:07:05,034 --> 00:07:05,994 There's catch flavor. 145 00:07:05,994 --> 00:07:12,686 Doritos in Canada, my friend introduced me to, I was like, Ketchup flavor Doritos. 146 00:07:12,686 --> 00:07:13,046 Why? 147 00:07:13,076 --> 00:07:14,156 Why would you do that? 148 00:07:14,546 --> 00:07:16,196 Ketchup, Flavor Doritos. 149 00:07:16,526 --> 00:07:16,916 Yeah. 150 00:07:17,366 --> 00:07:17,816 That's new. 151 00:07:18,116 --> 00:07:18,416 Yeah. 152 00:07:18,476 --> 00:07:18,836 Right. 153 00:07:19,796 --> 00:07:23,469 So you you said your wife, you've been together for seven years. 154 00:07:23,469 --> 00:07:24,159 You have kids? 155 00:07:24,999 --> 00:07:25,342 Yep. 156 00:07:25,342 --> 00:07:26,184 Two year old boy. 157 00:07:26,514 --> 00:07:27,564 Congratulations. 158 00:07:28,074 --> 00:07:28,494 Thank you. 159 00:07:29,274 --> 00:07:30,904 Family life is always fun. 160 00:07:30,904 --> 00:07:34,189 I notice that's one of your big things, faith, family, and freedom mm-hmm. 161 00:07:34,549 --> 00:07:35,919 , We'll get into that in a second. 162 00:07:37,149 --> 00:07:40,869 Now, tell me a little bit about team Sovereign, your 163 00:07:41,299 --> 00:07:41,379 business. 164 00:07:43,524 --> 00:07:46,865 Well, team sovereign, I like to differentiate between the different 165 00:07:46,886 --> 00:07:50,996 ventures that I have because they're all under the umbrella of sovereign team. 166 00:07:50,996 --> 00:07:53,966 Sovereign in particular, since you asked is specifically for 167 00:07:53,966 --> 00:07:55,637 my network marketing ventures. 168 00:07:55,685 --> 00:07:57,065 So I have a podcast. 169 00:07:57,065 --> 00:07:57,935 I have two podcasts. 170 00:07:57,935 --> 00:07:59,475 The Sovereign Podcast is one of them. 171 00:07:59,475 --> 00:08:00,588 That's my flagship show. 172 00:08:00,588 --> 00:08:01,638 I interview great people. 173 00:08:02,058 --> 00:08:04,899 And my second podcast is Your Sovereign Down Line. 174 00:08:04,899 --> 00:08:09,349 And it sort of documents my whole journey, both my wife Kim and I in the 175 00:08:09,354 --> 00:08:14,158 industry, the network marketing industry and Team Sovereign is my down line. 176 00:08:14,158 --> 00:08:17,366 It's I also coach people, not even necessarily in my team or my 177 00:08:17,366 --> 00:08:20,036 company, but is are in the industry. 178 00:08:20,336 --> 00:08:21,691 And that's basically it. 179 00:08:21,691 --> 00:08:25,111 It's it's my coaching program for anybody in the network marketing industry. 180 00:08:25,651 --> 00:08:26,071 Okay. 181 00:08:26,611 --> 00:08:30,511 So you have your coaching program and you have your downline podcast, and 182 00:08:30,511 --> 00:08:33,001 then you have your sovereign with Donna. 183 00:08:35,176 --> 00:08:35,926 What's your podcast 184 00:08:35,926 --> 00:08:36,196 about? 185 00:08:38,446 --> 00:08:42,736 Sovereign is about faith, family freedom, and I interview people who live 186 00:08:42,736 --> 00:08:48,166 those three, what I call foundations of life out to their fullest extent. 187 00:08:48,436 --> 00:08:52,066 And you're telling me before we started that you were listening to my to one of 188 00:08:52,066 --> 00:08:55,712 my interviews, and I'm sure you caught it, near the end of the conversation. 189 00:08:55,712 --> 00:08:59,882 I always ask my guests, what is your definition of a sovereign human being? 190 00:09:00,332 --> 00:09:03,602 And that's sort of, if I'm honest, that's sort of a gimmick just to cap 191 00:09:03,607 --> 00:09:07,135 things off, just to give a thematic, resident to all of my episodes. 192 00:09:07,255 --> 00:09:09,775 Because when I say what's a sovereign human being, the answer 193 00:09:09,775 --> 00:09:12,935 is in the stories that they tell throughout the conversation. 194 00:09:12,961 --> 00:09:16,381 They don't need to tell you what their definition is, it just puts 195 00:09:16,381 --> 00:09:20,296 their life into words, I guess, encapsulates it in sort of a summary. 196 00:09:20,716 --> 00:09:24,626 But sovereign is about helping you maximize that triad. 197 00:09:25,276 --> 00:09:29,854 That Tribe of Fs, faith, family freedom, which I think that if you're able to 198 00:09:30,004 --> 00:09:34,294 get crystal clear on what your faith is what family means to you, and if 199 00:09:34,294 --> 00:09:39,034 you embrace your freedom as a sovereign human being, then you'll be able to do 200 00:09:39,064 --> 00:09:40,436 pretty much anything you want in life. 201 00:09:40,442 --> 00:09:42,582 While we're there, let's step into that. 202 00:09:42,582 --> 00:09:45,715 You say faith, family freedom, are your core foundational values. 203 00:09:45,715 --> 00:09:47,425 Will you kinda take into that a little bit? 204 00:09:47,965 --> 00:09:48,295 Sure. 205 00:09:48,895 --> 00:09:54,085 So faith, now I'm a Christian, I'm a Catholic, and I believe that God 206 00:09:54,085 --> 00:09:56,335 guides every single one of my steps. 207 00:09:56,695 --> 00:10:01,855 But I'm aware that not everybody shares that same belief system. 208 00:10:01,975 --> 00:10:08,575 But I still think that faith is a vital, a vital facet of life to, to maximize. 209 00:10:08,580 --> 00:10:09,655 Because what is faith? 210 00:10:09,674 --> 00:10:13,609 Faith is really just the belief that there's something beyond you. 211 00:10:14,359 --> 00:10:16,939 That's guiding you toward whatever your destiny is. 212 00:10:17,359 --> 00:10:19,279 So call it the universe. 213 00:10:19,307 --> 00:10:21,950 I don't even like to use the word universe anymore, but you know, 214 00:10:21,955 --> 00:10:25,428 just to really accommodate those who don't share my belief system. 215 00:10:25,788 --> 00:10:28,428 Even whatever you call your higher, whatever you call 216 00:10:28,428 --> 00:10:29,778 that, higher being mm-hmm. 217 00:10:30,078 --> 00:10:34,998 , if you believe, if you wholeheartedly accept the fact that you are a tiny, 218 00:10:34,998 --> 00:10:38,507 little mortal human being on this earth, that is the beginning of humility. 219 00:10:39,107 --> 00:10:42,887 And once you have humility, your potential for growth is unlimited. 220 00:10:43,097 --> 00:10:47,657 But I think that you only are able to achieve true humility when you 221 00:10:47,662 --> 00:10:52,517 realize that there's somebody or something way, way, way beyond. 222 00:10:53,057 --> 00:10:58,007 Way, way, way beyond you in scope that humbles you to be able to open 223 00:10:58,007 --> 00:11:01,323 yourself up to growth, whatever that growth needs to be in your life. 224 00:11:01,323 --> 00:11:02,643 So that's the role of faith. 225 00:11:03,213 --> 00:11:07,443 And then family, obviously, it all starts and ends with family for so many people. 226 00:11:07,443 --> 00:11:13,590 And I was blessed enough to have grown up in a household with a present mother 227 00:11:13,595 --> 00:11:17,991 and father, a strong father who, you know, protected, provided, presided 228 00:11:17,996 --> 00:11:23,131 for the family provided direction to the family, and a mother who's loving, 229 00:11:23,131 --> 00:11:25,702 nurturing, supportive amazing parents. 230 00:11:25,707 --> 00:11:30,352 But just like faith, I know that a lot of people unfortunately, 231 00:11:30,682 --> 00:11:31,882 don't have that set up. 232 00:11:32,002 --> 00:11:34,552 They weren't raised in a, in a traditional family household 233 00:11:34,552 --> 00:11:35,812 with a present mother and father. 234 00:11:35,932 --> 00:11:40,252 And in that case, family is still just as relevant to them. 235 00:11:40,762 --> 00:11:42,832 But sometimes it's a matter of. 236 00:11:43,552 --> 00:11:47,932 Not necessarily looking to the people who are blood related to you, because 237 00:11:47,932 --> 00:11:51,172 again, a lot of people, they might not really have anybody who's blood 238 00:11:51,172 --> 00:11:54,022 related to them that they can connect with, that they can reach out to. 239 00:11:54,022 --> 00:11:55,252 Maybe they're all alone in the world. 240 00:11:55,612 --> 00:11:58,281 Well, if anyone watches the Fast and Furious franchise, 241 00:11:58,341 --> 00:11:59,511 they always talk about family. 242 00:11:59,511 --> 00:12:03,621 Family's a huge theme in Fast and Furious, but that rag tag team of guys 243 00:12:03,621 --> 00:12:07,545 and girls the family wasn't created through blood, but just through bonds. 244 00:12:07,755 --> 00:12:12,615 So even if you don't have a present, mother, father, grandparents, uncles, 245 00:12:12,620 --> 00:12:17,385 aunts, whoever, siblings you create your family and who's your family. 246 00:12:17,535 --> 00:12:21,165 Your family are the people who you can confide in, in the 247 00:12:21,165 --> 00:12:22,615 most important things to you. 248 00:12:22,615 --> 00:12:26,933 The people who share your most important core values, who you can share maybe 249 00:12:26,938 --> 00:12:30,743 not your deepest, darkest secrets, but at least the dreams that maybe you're 250 00:12:30,743 --> 00:12:34,583 ashamed to talk about with anybody else, because they're so heartfelt. 251 00:12:34,588 --> 00:12:37,433 They're so deep, they're so unusual. 252 00:12:37,793 --> 00:12:43,013 Your family are the people who will accept you for who you are and 253 00:12:43,018 --> 00:12:47,328 will provide the motivation and the encouragement and even the guidance 254 00:12:47,688 --> 00:12:50,850 to help you through, guide you through whatever challenges that you have. 255 00:12:50,850 --> 00:12:54,660 These are the human beings that you turn to throughout any of your challenges. 256 00:12:54,660 --> 00:12:55,380 And then freedom. 257 00:12:55,460 --> 00:12:58,620 Freedom, that can code down a whole rabbit hole because freedom 258 00:12:58,620 --> 00:13:00,270 is such a contentious issue. 259 00:13:00,270 --> 00:13:03,746 And I know I'm, I am sure you have your own thoughts on this brand, 260 00:13:03,986 --> 00:13:07,536 but freedom to me at its most basic level it's a twofold thing. 261 00:13:07,536 --> 00:13:11,796 Freedom is, freedom is the ability to do whatever you want, or 262 00:13:11,801 --> 00:13:14,556 really the acknowledgement that you can do whatever you want. 263 00:13:14,556 --> 00:13:18,186 I don't care who you are, you have choice, you have the power of choice. 264 00:13:18,336 --> 00:13:20,466 Now, unfortunately, a lot of people stop there. 265 00:13:20,976 --> 00:13:22,056 A lot of people stop. 266 00:13:22,116 --> 00:13:25,086 And that this is why a lot of people scoff at freedom nowadays. 267 00:13:25,086 --> 00:13:29,324 They just think that it's this sort of uniquely American value even 268 00:13:29,654 --> 00:13:33,204 that you can do whatever you want without regard for the consequences. 269 00:13:33,669 --> 00:13:37,659 And a lot of the time the word freedom or people who love freedom 270 00:13:37,659 --> 00:13:40,936 are being portrayed as these people who lack responsibility or lack 271 00:13:40,936 --> 00:13:43,186 regard for other people's wellbeing. 272 00:13:43,186 --> 00:13:45,572 They just wanna do whatever they want without thinking about the 273 00:13:45,572 --> 00:13:47,742 consequences of exercising that freedom. 274 00:13:48,042 --> 00:13:51,102 So this is what I say, that's just the first part of freedom. 275 00:13:51,372 --> 00:13:55,662 I think freedom isn't just doing what you want, it's also acknowledging the fact 276 00:13:55,662 --> 00:14:00,312 that there's responsibility, there's duty that comes packaged with freedom, right? 277 00:14:00,312 --> 00:14:01,422 Because what's freedom? 278 00:14:01,422 --> 00:14:02,802 Freedom really is a power. 279 00:14:02,862 --> 00:14:06,522 And I watched Spider-Man again with my sister earlier and what's 280 00:14:06,522 --> 00:14:07,662 that great Spider-Man coat? 281 00:14:07,662 --> 00:14:09,672 With great power comes great responsibility. 282 00:14:09,882 --> 00:14:10,452 So I think. 283 00:14:11,157 --> 00:14:16,977 A person who exercises their freedom to the fullest extent, not only understands 284 00:14:16,977 --> 00:14:20,547 and embrace the fact that they can do whatever they want, that they have the 285 00:14:20,547 --> 00:14:24,417 choice to control their destiny, control their life, the direction of their life. 286 00:14:24,597 --> 00:14:27,897 They also understand that it's not only about them, it's not only 287 00:14:27,897 --> 00:14:30,297 about those superficial pleasures. 288 00:14:30,297 --> 00:14:31,707 What do I want out of life? 289 00:14:31,917 --> 00:14:33,537 What do I want out of the situation? 290 00:14:33,687 --> 00:14:37,047 It's also knowing that because there's so much power in the fact 291 00:14:37,047 --> 00:14:40,647 that I can choose, I better make sure that the choices I make also have 292 00:14:40,652 --> 00:14:42,387 a positive impact on other people. 293 00:14:42,687 --> 00:14:46,887 And ultimately that leads to not just a successful life, but a significant life. 294 00:14:47,247 --> 00:14:49,197 Cuz anybody can find success. 295 00:14:49,527 --> 00:14:54,564 But unless you also have significance as a huge part of your life, paying it forward, 296 00:14:55,014 --> 00:14:58,104 doing things for people other than yourself, then I don't think you're ever 297 00:14:58,109 --> 00:15:02,964 gonna live a really, truly fulfilled life if you have success without significance. 298 00:15:02,969 --> 00:15:04,884 So that's freedom in a nutshell. 299 00:15:05,844 --> 00:15:06,184 Okay. 300 00:15:06,186 --> 00:15:08,334 I definitely have my thoughts on it, but I'm agreeing with 301 00:15:08,334 --> 00:15:09,474 you on a whole lot of that. 302 00:15:09,474 --> 00:15:15,534 Cause I, a lot of the people I know who embrace freedom, I mean as Americans, 303 00:15:15,534 --> 00:15:20,800 the fullest extent I have a military family and a lot of military friends and 304 00:15:20,858 --> 00:15:26,361 those guys absolutely love and embrace freedom, but they're also willing to 305 00:15:26,361 --> 00:15:31,851 fight for it, to serve, for it, to lay down their lives for it if they need to. 306 00:15:32,161 --> 00:15:36,620 They have a very I dunno, civic duty of responsibility with that. 307 00:15:36,770 --> 00:15:39,500 They know it's amazing and they know it's worth fighting for and 308 00:15:39,500 --> 00:15:41,210 we're serving for and giving back. 309 00:15:41,278 --> 00:15:45,448 I definitely, there, there is a lot, a lot of people get the idea wrong. 310 00:15:46,078 --> 00:15:49,858 Just because you have the freedom to do things doesn't mean there 311 00:15:49,858 --> 00:15:53,132 aren't, ethics and morals that govern what you do with that. 312 00:15:53,132 --> 00:15:53,384 Right. 313 00:15:53,714 --> 00:15:55,794 I have the freedom to go to work sick. 314 00:15:56,624 --> 00:16:01,844 I don't, because I find it unethical to put my coworkers at risk just because 315 00:16:01,874 --> 00:16:03,834 I can't afford to take a day off. 316 00:16:03,861 --> 00:16:05,841 I actually got into a fight several years with a guy. 317 00:16:05,871 --> 00:16:09,741 I go back before I had paid time off when I was still working construction. 318 00:16:09,741 --> 00:16:13,011 I actually got into a fight with a coworker of that because he 319 00:16:13,016 --> 00:16:14,751 came into work sick as a dog. 320 00:16:14,751 --> 00:16:16,341 He's like, Man, I can't afford to take time off. 321 00:16:17,031 --> 00:16:20,931 I was like, None of the rest of us can either man, knock out half the crew. 322 00:16:22,881 --> 00:16:27,411 Like literally knocked out half our crew for a week and Madam Bus could 323 00:16:27,411 --> 00:16:28,551 afford to take time off either. 324 00:16:28,551 --> 00:16:31,693 So yeah, no, there's a great deal of responsibility comes 325 00:16:31,693 --> 00:16:33,553 with that kind of freedom. 326 00:16:33,553 --> 00:16:34,663 And I love the Fast and Furious. 327 00:16:34,663 --> 00:16:36,073 My daughters were joking about that. 328 00:16:36,463 --> 00:16:37,843 They've never seen the Fast and Furious. 329 00:16:37,843 --> 00:16:44,083 They're seven and 10, but on some sitcom they made fun of going family, right? 330 00:16:44,083 --> 00:16:44,743 The been diesel bit. 331 00:16:45,793 --> 00:16:48,975 And so my 10 year old was walking around the other day going, We're family. 332 00:16:50,775 --> 00:16:52,035 You've never even seen the movie, Honey. 333 00:16:52,035 --> 00:16:53,195 She's like, But I seen that part. 334 00:16:53,210 --> 00:16:56,976 But I always tell people there's the family you're born with and 335 00:16:56,976 --> 00:16:58,686 you may get a really great deal. 336 00:16:59,016 --> 00:17:00,366 You may have an amazing family. 337 00:17:00,371 --> 00:17:03,576 I was very blessed to have a very tight knit family that was always supportive. 338 00:17:03,576 --> 00:17:04,296 And there for me. 339 00:17:04,896 --> 00:17:07,326 I know a lot of people who got raw into the stick on that. 340 00:17:07,866 --> 00:17:13,566 But then there's the family you surround yourself with that are 341 00:17:13,566 --> 00:17:16,666 an extension of that blood family or maybe a replacement or both. 342 00:17:16,696 --> 00:17:20,416 I have several friends around my house that are aunts and uncles, even though 343 00:17:20,416 --> 00:17:24,676 they're not blood related because they're at my house more than my family is. 344 00:17:25,906 --> 00:17:26,476 I got two of 'em. 345 00:17:26,476 --> 00:17:30,226 They have stockings at my house come Christmas time because as far as my 346 00:17:30,226 --> 00:17:34,722 kids are concerned, they're as uncle and aunt as their blood uncle and aunts are. 347 00:17:35,592 --> 00:17:37,230 So yeah, I think you have that. 348 00:17:37,230 --> 00:17:38,501 You can always find that family. 349 00:17:38,501 --> 00:17:41,080 Just surround yourself with so I love the ideas. 350 00:17:41,170 --> 00:17:41,860 Yeah, absolutely. 351 00:17:41,860 --> 00:17:42,280 I'm loving it. 352 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,390 Now can I ask you an off question, slightly off topic. 353 00:17:47,110 --> 00:17:47,470 Sure. 354 00:17:47,740 --> 00:17:50,470 You work with your wife in this business, right? 355 00:17:50,470 --> 00:17:51,250 Mm-hmm. 356 00:17:51,430 --> 00:17:55,390 now as a man who also shares his business with his wife, right? 357 00:17:55,390 --> 00:17:57,460 My wife and I are equal partners in the business. 358 00:17:57,538 --> 00:18:01,888 I run into a lot of people who can't even imagine having to 359 00:18:01,888 --> 00:18:03,328 try and do that relationship. 360 00:18:03,808 --> 00:18:05,188 I don't find it really difficult. 361 00:18:05,193 --> 00:18:05,578 To you. 362 00:18:07,438 --> 00:18:09,238 It depends on what we're trying to do. 363 00:18:11,248 --> 00:18:11,578 Yeah. 364 00:18:12,058 --> 00:18:12,478 Should, yeah. 365 00:18:12,478 --> 00:18:13,528 How about, how about for yourself? 366 00:18:13,528 --> 00:18:15,768 When you say equal partners, how do you share the load? 367 00:18:15,835 --> 00:18:19,612 So under my company umbrella, the Fallible Man llc, we actually 368 00:18:19,642 --> 00:18:22,131 have DBAs on two other businesses. 369 00:18:22,131 --> 00:18:23,691 My wife does bookkeeping on the side. 370 00:18:24,831 --> 00:18:25,101 Okay. 371 00:18:25,431 --> 00:18:30,861 And so right now actually, we're at a stage where her bookkeeping is actually 372 00:18:30,861 --> 00:18:32,431 paying for the company entirely. 373 00:18:32,431 --> 00:18:36,930 That's the only income we have generated from this, except for the occasional 374 00:18:36,930 --> 00:18:38,040 sell of a t-shirt or something. 375 00:18:38,156 --> 00:18:40,376 Which is still very rare as we're growing, right? 376 00:18:40,376 --> 00:18:44,216 We're still very small, trying to get some marketing advertising going this 377 00:18:44,216 --> 00:18:46,187 year and spread awareness about the brand. 378 00:18:46,247 --> 00:18:50,987 But the majority of the brand is being entirely funded by my wife. 379 00:18:51,617 --> 00:18:55,367 She doesn't do a lot of the production that I do, but she's 380 00:18:55,372 --> 00:18:57,047 actually usually on these interviews. 381 00:18:57,184 --> 00:18:58,346 My mother lives with us. 382 00:18:58,346 --> 00:19:02,382 My father passes last year and my mother lives with us and she usually watches 383 00:19:02,382 --> 00:19:03,882 the kids when I'm recording interviews. 384 00:19:04,872 --> 00:19:09,312 And so my wife is usually actually here in the interview doing all 385 00:19:09,312 --> 00:19:12,402 the screen switching and all the engineering for the interview, and 386 00:19:12,402 --> 00:19:16,032 she does all the inter engineering on my live streams and stuff like that. 387 00:19:16,082 --> 00:19:21,534 Some of the camera work on some of my other videos, so this is, all 388 00:19:21,534 --> 00:19:25,504 of our roles don't overlap, but she is neck deep in this with me. 389 00:19:25,513 --> 00:19:29,413 She also does a lot of the finance work on the back end of the business. 390 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:30,424 We sit down and have. 391 00:19:31,519 --> 00:19:34,579 Major administrative discussions on our date nights when we really 392 00:19:34,579 --> 00:19:35,959 shouldn't be talking business. 393 00:19:35,959 --> 00:19:39,949 But it's hard to not do when you have kids in your face the rest of the time. 394 00:19:40,439 --> 00:19:41,049 Mm-hmm. 395 00:19:41,129 --> 00:19:42,859 , but she also homeschools my kids. 396 00:19:43,219 --> 00:19:45,499 So right now she's homeschooling the girls. 397 00:19:46,159 --> 00:19:48,109 That's why she's not actually in interview right now. 398 00:19:48,147 --> 00:19:51,284 You know what, Brent, I should be interviewing you because my wife 399 00:19:51,284 --> 00:19:54,294 and I aren't doing nearly that much. 400 00:19:54,294 --> 00:19:59,897 Work because when I say my wife and I are in business together, the only legal 401 00:19:59,897 --> 00:20:03,827 official way that she's in my business is in our network marketing company. 402 00:20:03,827 --> 00:20:05,679 We're both on, we're both on the contract. 403 00:20:05,701 --> 00:20:07,877 We're both co-owners of that particular business. 404 00:20:08,177 --> 00:20:11,957 But when I say we work together, it's more along the lines of she keeps me account. 405 00:20:12,632 --> 00:20:14,749 She keeps me account because she knows what I do. 406 00:20:14,839 --> 00:20:18,499 She knows what I do inside and out, and whenever we're invited to speak, 407 00:20:18,679 --> 00:20:21,979 she's also invited to speak alongside me because we're pretty much a package. 408 00:20:22,027 --> 00:20:22,777 For the most part. 409 00:20:22,897 --> 00:20:25,207 She appears with me on some of the podcasts. 410 00:20:25,207 --> 00:20:27,806 She keeps the finances in check and all that. 411 00:20:27,811 --> 00:20:32,336 But in terms of the technical stuff, she is not a techie. 412 00:20:32,336 --> 00:20:33,356 I'm not a techie either. 413 00:20:33,356 --> 00:20:34,886 I'm figuring all this stuff out. 414 00:20:34,939 --> 00:20:38,543 , when I was asking you earlier about how this whole software works in E cam and 415 00:20:38,543 --> 00:20:40,913 all that, I like to keep things simple. 416 00:20:41,033 --> 00:20:41,123 Mm-hmm. 417 00:20:41,368 --> 00:20:44,598 as much as possible because my wife is really you say that 418 00:20:44,704 --> 00:20:46,064 yours homeschools your kids. 419 00:20:46,064 --> 00:20:50,294 My, my son's two years old and he's basically a teenager at this point, and he 420 00:20:50,294 --> 00:20:53,024 is just requiring her full-time attention. 421 00:20:53,354 --> 00:20:56,084 And, I mean, this was something that we agreed on. 422 00:20:56,579 --> 00:21:00,045 You know, obviously when we were still dating we made it really clear what 423 00:21:00,045 --> 00:21:03,594 roles we want to play in each other's lives as husband and wife and her. 424 00:21:03,594 --> 00:21:06,594 It's really being the stay at home mom primarily and taking care of 425 00:21:06,594 --> 00:21:09,534 the kids, rearing the kids and supporting me and my ventures. 426 00:21:09,594 --> 00:21:13,070 And she just so happened to be the same person who introduced me into 427 00:21:13,070 --> 00:21:14,330 the world of entrepreneurship. 428 00:21:14,330 --> 00:21:18,482 So she has that, guiding hand of sorts, but man, I can't imagine our 429 00:21:18,482 --> 00:21:23,222 lives doing everything that you're doing now together, , while raising. 430 00:21:23,222 --> 00:21:24,362 You have two girls, right? 431 00:21:24,452 --> 00:21:24,692 Yeah. 432 00:21:24,992 --> 00:21:25,532 Seven and 10. 433 00:21:26,642 --> 00:21:27,722 It's off to you, man. 434 00:21:28,502 --> 00:21:29,432 , I should be interviewing you. 435 00:21:29,432 --> 00:21:31,412 You should come on my show and tell me your secrets. 436 00:21:31,592 --> 00:21:32,072 I anytime, 437 00:21:32,072 --> 00:21:32,282 man. 438 00:21:32,287 --> 00:21:35,972 I don't know I got any secrets, but the answer is you just 439 00:21:35,972 --> 00:21:37,352 learn to make it work, right? 440 00:21:37,592 --> 00:21:37,922 Yep. 441 00:21:38,732 --> 00:21:39,212 Always. 442 00:21:39,512 --> 00:21:40,112 Sarah. 443 00:21:40,117 --> 00:21:41,222 Sarah's not a techie. 444 00:21:41,282 --> 00:21:45,131 I actually work in the IT industry for my normal nine to five job. 445 00:21:45,701 --> 00:21:49,211 And so, you know, I taught her how to do stuff and I 446 00:21:49,211 --> 00:21:50,691 purposely made software choices. 447 00:21:51,716 --> 00:21:55,496 Like this, this is a super user friendly interface for this software. 448 00:21:55,496 --> 00:21:57,986 That's one of the reasons that's one of their foundations at the 449 00:21:57,986 --> 00:22:00,656 company for Stream Yard is Right. 450 00:22:00,806 --> 00:22:04,807 Keeping things super, super user friendly so that anybody can 451 00:22:04,807 --> 00:22:06,067 use their software as the idea. 452 00:22:06,717 --> 00:22:12,707 But no, we we have our roles and she, like I said, she usually 453 00:22:12,707 --> 00:22:14,127 is on doing the engineering. 454 00:22:14,127 --> 00:22:19,360 My mom is outta town visiting my sister, so she can't be here. 455 00:22:19,365 --> 00:22:22,211 She's my mom helps out when she's doing something like this with me, 456 00:22:22,961 --> 00:22:24,981 but, you know, we make it work. 457 00:22:24,981 --> 00:22:26,545 And that's been a huge blessing. 458 00:22:26,545 --> 00:22:31,820 Having my mom move in with us has really, actually, effectively made it a little 459 00:22:31,820 --> 00:22:33,920 easier for my wife to take a bigger role. 460 00:22:34,850 --> 00:22:35,130 Mm-hmm. 461 00:22:35,130 --> 00:22:35,453 . All right. 462 00:22:35,474 --> 00:22:39,969 I just had to ask, I don't meet many other guys who are like doing the 463 00:22:39,969 --> 00:22:41,829 partnership thing with their spouse. 464 00:22:42,159 --> 00:22:42,429 Right. 465 00:22:42,435 --> 00:22:44,833 It's an interesting world when you start doing it. 466 00:22:45,673 --> 00:22:45,925 Yeah. 467 00:22:45,956 --> 00:22:49,688 And it is interesting because I think that, I don't know how many other guys 468 00:22:49,688 --> 00:22:54,428 you met where both spouses work in the business, but I think this conversation 469 00:22:54,428 --> 00:22:58,267 right now is proving that every spouse has their own dynamic, both on a official 470 00:22:58,267 --> 00:23:02,142 legal level and on a, relationship level and skill level as well. 471 00:23:02,170 --> 00:23:05,099 I think you learn something every time you ask somebody, whether a man or a 472 00:23:05,099 --> 00:23:08,819 woman, how they work with their spouse, because I think everybody has their own 473 00:23:08,824 --> 00:23:10,728 style that they just have to slide into. 474 00:23:10,738 --> 00:23:13,648 Both my wife and I are still getting used to this whole setup, cuz it's 475 00:23:13,648 --> 00:23:16,605 only now that we're really doubling down on the sovereign brand. 476 00:23:17,535 --> 00:23:19,644 And now that our two year old is you. 477 00:23:20,454 --> 00:23:24,804 Transitioning from the terrible twos into the terroristic threes . It's 478 00:23:24,804 --> 00:23:27,873 gonna be a whole host of challenges that are coming up later on. 479 00:23:27,873 --> 00:23:30,183 So yeah, so making it work. 480 00:23:30,183 --> 00:23:34,768 And I think the other side of that also is you have to learn to adapt. 481 00:23:35,698 --> 00:23:35,938 Yeah. 482 00:23:36,358 --> 00:23:37,498 Especially if you have kids. 483 00:23:37,498 --> 00:23:39,058 I mean, particularly if you have kids, 484 00:23:40,318 --> 00:23:41,092 it's entertaining. 485 00:23:41,182 --> 00:23:44,302 Cuz I, I have to be cognizant, like my 10 year old watches my 486 00:23:44,302 --> 00:23:45,622 live streams on Monday night. 487 00:23:45,627 --> 00:23:48,532 I tell you all live stream on Mondays, my 10 year old sitting 488 00:23:48,532 --> 00:23:49,732 there watching the live stream. 489 00:23:50,692 --> 00:23:53,182 My, my seven year old's not like really interested yet. 490 00:23:53,242 --> 00:23:54,292 She's like, I see you all the time. 491 00:23:54,292 --> 00:23:54,622 Dad. 492 00:23:55,072 --> 00:23:58,192 My 10 year old gets into it like, she loves to watch the live streams. 493 00:23:58,942 --> 00:24:00,442 In fact, I had to tell her she has to stay off. 494 00:24:00,442 --> 00:24:03,202 She can't like roll for giveaways and stuff like that cuz sometimes I 495 00:24:03,202 --> 00:24:04,552 give away stuff in my live streams. 496 00:24:04,552 --> 00:24:06,592 And she won once. 497 00:24:06,742 --> 00:24:12,202 I was like, maybe you can't roll on our own merchandise, unwritten rule. 498 00:24:12,202 --> 00:24:15,622 You, you can't roll on our own merchandise when I'm trying to give it away to people. 499 00:24:17,407 --> 00:24:20,849 But yeah, so I have to, it makes me, it keeps me on my toes with it. 500 00:24:21,599 --> 00:24:22,209 Mm-hmm. 501 00:24:22,469 --> 00:24:25,878 . And actually, we're gonna get into entrepreneurial 502 00:24:26,508 --> 00:24:27,918 training with children later. 503 00:24:28,428 --> 00:24:31,518 But guys, before we go any farther, we've been getting to know Don in the first 504 00:24:31,518 --> 00:24:35,358 half of the show and kind of figuring out who he is and what he's about, 505 00:24:35,388 --> 00:24:37,578 and what he is bringing to the table. 506 00:24:37,578 --> 00:24:40,788 Today, the second half of the show, we're gonna dig farther into 507 00:24:40,788 --> 00:24:45,558 his core pillars of faith, family freedom, business, and fatherhood. 508 00:24:45,888 --> 00:24:48,348 We're gonna roll to our sponsor and we'll be right back with more from Don. 509 00:24:48,498 --> 00:24:54,048 I'm calling on All men right now to stand up and stand against this horrific crime. 510 00:24:54,468 --> 00:24:58,338 It is estimated over 300,000 children are being sex trafficked in the 511 00:24:58,338 --> 00:25:00,468 United States alone every single day. 512 00:25:00,888 --> 00:25:02,298 I want you to get on your social media. 513 00:25:02,303 --> 00:25:06,458 I want you to follow savinginnocence.org or fightforme.net. 514 00:25:07,008 --> 00:25:11,388 Both these charities are working to end child trafficking in 515 00:25:11,388 --> 00:25:12,978 the United States and abroad. 516 00:25:13,368 --> 00:25:14,178 You can donate at. 517 00:25:15,668 --> 00:25:21,938 www.thefallibleman.com/shop and buy our end human trafficking merchandise 518 00:25:22,358 --> 00:25:26,938 and all proceeds will be given indefinitely to savinginnocence.org. 519 00:25:27,258 --> 00:25:32,148 You can also go to www.savinginnocence.org/donate and 520 00:25:32,148 --> 00:25:35,328 donate directly to Saving Innocence Men. 521 00:25:35,328 --> 00:25:39,888 It is time for us to fight and stop this horrible thing known as human trafficking. 522 00:25:40,248 --> 00:25:41,178 And we're back guys. 523 00:25:41,418 --> 00:25:44,238 We're here with Don about talking Faith, Family Freedom. 524 00:25:44,628 --> 00:25:46,908 We talked about that some a little and got time to know him a little bit. 525 00:25:47,028 --> 00:25:51,138 We're gonna get into how that applies in business and fatherhood and even 526 00:25:51,138 --> 00:25:52,728 more in this second half of the show. 527 00:25:53,208 --> 00:25:56,718 Now, Don, to start off the second half of the show, what purchase 528 00:25:56,718 --> 00:25:59,478 of a hundred dollars or less have you made in the last year? 529 00:25:59,478 --> 00:26:01,518 This has the most meaningful impact on your life? 530 00:26:02,718 --> 00:26:04,578 Oh, that's a, That is a hard one. 531 00:26:05,418 --> 00:26:08,328 That is a hard one because we're really. 532 00:26:09,708 --> 00:26:12,648 We really haven't been spending a lot in the past two years, 533 00:26:12,648 --> 00:26:13,968 to be totally honest with you. 534 00:26:13,968 --> 00:26:17,042 I don't wanna go too much into this because there's still a 535 00:26:17,047 --> 00:26:18,480 lot in the air, at this point. 536 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,320 But we are planning on switching countries again, and so we're, putting 537 00:26:22,325 --> 00:26:24,030 preparations in place for that. 538 00:26:24,300 --> 00:26:29,501 And I think that in today's crazy world, as a new father doing what's best for 539 00:26:29,501 --> 00:26:33,101 your family is the, obviously the most important thing in the world to me. 540 00:26:33,122 --> 00:26:36,072 We are putting things in place and yeah that's probably the most 541 00:26:36,072 --> 00:26:39,466 meaningful purchase I made is taking us one step closer to our big move. 542 00:26:39,466 --> 00:26:42,234 Probably not the usual answer that you get to this question, is it? 543 00:26:42,534 --> 00:26:42,924 No, 544 00:26:42,924 --> 00:26:43,614 but you know what? 545 00:26:43,614 --> 00:26:45,144 Every, everybody's very individual. 546 00:26:45,149 --> 00:26:47,104 That's one of the fun things about asking that question. 547 00:26:47,123 --> 00:26:48,083 I get a lot of books. 548 00:26:48,563 --> 00:26:52,627 I've gotten some shoes but I get, I got a pair of shorts once a guy 549 00:26:52,627 --> 00:26:55,447 raved about a pair of shorts he bought, like he lives in them now. 550 00:26:56,587 --> 00:26:58,927 We turned around about like four more pairs after the first one. 551 00:26:58,927 --> 00:27:00,877 I was like, Wow, those are impressive shorts. 552 00:27:01,227 --> 00:27:01,787 Uhhuh. 553 00:27:01,837 --> 00:27:05,215 I never liked any clothes that much, it's people are very individual, 554 00:27:05,215 --> 00:27:09,132 so it gives people a chance to share Also, it gives people ideas. 555 00:27:09,132 --> 00:27:10,541 It's like, Oh, what could benefit me? 556 00:27:11,261 --> 00:27:14,261 Maybe a change of scenery is exactly what a lot of people need. 557 00:27:14,371 --> 00:27:18,031 I've always been amazed how few people actually move around. 558 00:27:19,861 --> 00:27:20,971 I moved my whole life. 559 00:27:20,971 --> 00:27:22,801 I've grown up, I've lived all over the United States. 560 00:27:22,907 --> 00:27:26,777 I haven't done a lot of international travel, Mexico, Canada, but I've lived 561 00:27:26,777 --> 00:27:28,367 from coast to coast in the United States. 562 00:27:28,517 --> 00:27:31,607 And the amount of people that I meet who have never been outside of like 563 00:27:31,607 --> 00:27:34,907 a, you know, hundred mile radius of where they were born, it's just 564 00:27:34,907 --> 00:27:37,637 like, maybe you should try that. 565 00:27:37,727 --> 00:27:40,277 Just . Yeah. 566 00:27:40,727 --> 00:27:41,297 No judgment. 567 00:27:41,302 --> 00:27:43,037 Just maybe, maybe you should give that a, your eye. 568 00:27:43,037 --> 00:27:43,157 Yeah. 569 00:27:43,587 --> 00:27:44,197 Mm-hmm. 570 00:27:44,897 --> 00:27:48,008 . And I think everybody needs a little bit of travel in their lives nowadays. 571 00:27:48,728 --> 00:27:48,938 Oh 572 00:27:48,938 --> 00:27:49,238 yeah. 573 00:27:49,358 --> 00:27:49,638 Yeah. 574 00:27:49,638 --> 00:27:51,808 We've all been pen up the last couple years anyway. 575 00:27:51,808 --> 00:27:54,117 I'm thinking some restrictions are starting to ease up 576 00:27:54,122 --> 00:27:55,057 a little bit around here. 577 00:27:55,079 --> 00:27:58,679 I'm thinking the campsite are gonna be packed this year with people 578 00:27:58,679 --> 00:28:00,089 just trying to get outta the house. 579 00:28:01,559 --> 00:28:02,789 So yeah. 580 00:28:03,179 --> 00:28:09,216 Don ask you one of the things and I generally, it's so funny cuz I was going 581 00:28:09,216 --> 00:28:14,526 through your bio on the service we use to get together on this and I generally try 582 00:28:14,526 --> 00:28:17,316 and ask my own very specific questions. 583 00:28:17,454 --> 00:28:20,544 But some of the questions that you listed that you're always ready to answer, 584 00:28:21,144 --> 00:28:25,674 were like, Man, I don't wanna just ask him the questions that he listed, but 585 00:28:25,704 --> 00:28:27,624 I really want to ask that question. 586 00:28:28,854 --> 00:28:33,354 So let me ask you this one that caught my attention, Why should we 587 00:28:33,354 --> 00:28:36,774 be proud and unapologetic about our faith even in our professional lives? 588 00:28:36,774 --> 00:28:39,414 Cause there's a lot of people who are not comfortable mixing the two. 589 00:28:41,559 --> 00:28:46,359 Well, because I think the world is missing people who are un 590 00:28:46,419 --> 00:28:47,859 unapologetic about their faith. 591 00:28:48,099 --> 00:28:50,079 I mean, I don't really know another way to put it. 592 00:28:50,949 --> 00:28:55,719 I mean, I totally get it, and I'm probably super biased in the fact that 593 00:28:55,719 --> 00:28:59,175 I've never really held quote unquote real job for more than three months. 594 00:28:59,425 --> 00:29:03,865 So, you know, this whole, this whole facade, I'll just put it out there. 595 00:29:03,865 --> 00:29:08,585 I think it's a facade of professionalism, hiding the things that most matter to you. 596 00:29:08,585 --> 00:29:12,176 And I mean, faith, faith is, faith is not like a political thing. 597 00:29:12,229 --> 00:29:13,094 People always say that. 598 00:29:13,094 --> 00:29:16,165 Two, the two things you should never discuss in public or, in, in the 599 00:29:16,165 --> 00:29:18,465 workplace or, religion and politics. 600 00:29:18,483 --> 00:29:21,723 I can sort of understand politics, especially now, but I don't 601 00:29:21,723 --> 00:29:24,453 see why you shouldn't be loud and proud about your faith. 602 00:29:24,993 --> 00:29:29,866 I don't see what's so controversial about that unless you're in adherent of some. 603 00:29:29,935 --> 00:29:30,982 Cult or whatever. 604 00:29:31,222 --> 00:29:34,187 But I think, especially if you're Christian when I put that question out 605 00:29:34,187 --> 00:29:38,691 there about are you unapologetic about your faith as a challenge to people who 606 00:29:38,781 --> 00:29:42,259 want to express it but aren't currently really what are you trying to hide? 607 00:29:42,919 --> 00:29:45,959 What are you trying to hide about your belief in the Lord? 608 00:29:45,959 --> 00:29:48,966 I think there's nothing to lose in everything to be gained no 609 00:29:48,966 --> 00:29:50,886 matter what your profession is. 610 00:29:50,886 --> 00:29:53,870 And I understand some places like the clamp down on that more than others, 611 00:29:53,875 --> 00:29:58,550 but when I say be loud and proud about what you believe in, about the God that 612 00:29:58,550 --> 00:30:01,730 you believe in, about the faith that you subscribe to, I'm not saying preach 613 00:30:01,730 --> 00:30:03,380 and try to convert your coworkers. 614 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,060 I'm not saying that at all. 615 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:11,981 In fact, whenever I ask people this question people on my podcast, Are 616 00:30:11,981 --> 00:30:14,441 a lot loud and proud about their faith and they're in business. 617 00:30:14,921 --> 00:30:16,181 I always say, How do you do it? 618 00:30:16,481 --> 00:30:21,778 How do you find the confidence and the motivation and the openness 619 00:30:21,868 --> 00:30:23,338 to talk about your faith openly. 620 00:30:23,638 --> 00:30:26,848 And then they say, they normally say something along the lines of, 621 00:30:26,998 --> 00:30:29,488 I, because I don't really talk about it, that's what they say. 622 00:30:29,518 --> 00:30:34,048 I don't really talk about my faith so much as I live my faith out. 623 00:30:34,143 --> 00:30:38,396 Reminds me of one of my friends when Kimmy and I were living in Atlanta and we're 624 00:30:38,396 --> 00:30:43,105 a part of this church group called Folk la and the members like to gather around 625 00:30:43,105 --> 00:30:47,231 during our meetings and talk about what they did too illustrate or demonstrate 626 00:30:47,231 --> 00:30:48,869 their faith in their day to day lives. 627 00:30:49,109 --> 00:30:52,499 And there, there was this one guy, Egyptian guy, and he works as a 628 00:30:52,499 --> 00:30:54,119 server, as a waiter in a restaurant. 629 00:30:54,869 --> 00:30:56,009 Never talks about his faith. 630 00:30:56,069 --> 00:31:00,106 And you'd think that as an Egyptian guy, he'd be probably Muslim or something 631 00:31:00,106 --> 00:31:04,396 like that, but he just happens to be a Catholic and he never talks about it. 632 00:31:04,576 --> 00:31:08,056 But one day a regular at the restaurant just tapped him on the shoulder 633 00:31:08,446 --> 00:31:11,326 and then said, Hey Raj, we wouldn't happen to be a Christian, would you? 634 00:31:12,526 --> 00:31:17,345 And I mean, kind of speaks for itself, doesn't, and that's probably one Christian 635 00:31:17,345 --> 00:31:19,265 recognizing the actions of another. 636 00:31:19,265 --> 00:31:23,495 But I think the point still stands that when I say live out your 637 00:31:23,495 --> 00:31:27,485 faith, I don't mean preach from the heavens and try to convert people. 638 00:31:27,695 --> 00:31:30,155 I'm just saying live it out practically. 639 00:31:30,155 --> 00:31:31,484 There's I had an amazing. 640 00:31:32,489 --> 00:31:37,273 Who talks about on my podcast, who talks about living, the art of Catholicism on 641 00:31:37,273 --> 00:31:38,983 a practical level in your day to day. 642 00:31:39,313 --> 00:31:42,680 And I don't wanna keep this super exclusive to Catholics, but obviously 643 00:31:42,685 --> 00:31:45,546 being a Catholic, it's, the only ex experience I can speak from. 644 00:31:45,566 --> 00:31:49,630 But we have a very prominent figure a saint in Catholicism. 645 00:31:49,630 --> 00:31:51,519 His name is Jose Maria Riva. 646 00:31:51,669 --> 00:31:56,529 And his entire approach, his entire ministry was all about office day 647 00:31:56,679 --> 00:32:00,909 work of God, putting God in all of your work, no matter how small it is. 648 00:32:00,909 --> 00:32:04,911 If you're a plumber, when you fix those sinks, put God in every single 649 00:32:04,911 --> 00:32:08,841 project, no matter what it is, and people will sense it off of you. 650 00:32:08,961 --> 00:32:11,751 It just creates a different aura around you. 651 00:32:11,751 --> 00:32:16,701 People might not be able to put their finger on it, but somebody who puts God 652 00:32:16,701 --> 00:32:18,561 into all of their work, who prays before. 653 00:32:19,371 --> 00:32:22,431 Every important action that they take, every important decisions that they 654 00:32:22,431 --> 00:32:26,031 make, even if they don't proclaim it out loud, people will feel that. 655 00:32:26,271 --> 00:32:27,231 And you'll feel it too. 656 00:32:27,321 --> 00:32:30,541 You'll feel more confident, you'll be more humble. 657 00:32:30,541 --> 00:32:34,244 Your days will find, you'll find meaning in your days. 658 00:32:34,244 --> 00:32:36,188 Especially people who are on the grind. 659 00:32:36,258 --> 00:32:38,868 People who are employees, people who are working in corporate. 660 00:32:39,648 --> 00:32:44,117 One great way just from speaking to a lot of people I know who unabashedly 661 00:32:44,117 --> 00:32:47,479 live out their faith the best way to really put more meaning into their 662 00:32:47,479 --> 00:32:52,099 day to day work is by making sure that God, that Jesus is at the forefront 663 00:32:52,099 --> 00:32:53,809 of every single thing that they do. 664 00:32:53,809 --> 00:32:58,369 And if they do that, what they do, even if it's routine, even if they do 665 00:32:58,369 --> 00:33:01,159 it every single day over and over and over again, it's not gonna be boring. 666 00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:05,337 There's something new to unearth uncover from each of those tiny, 667 00:33:05,342 --> 00:33:07,167 seemingly insignificant experiences. 668 00:33:07,172 --> 00:33:09,117 So I hope that answers your question. 669 00:33:09,477 --> 00:33:10,707 No, no, that's a great answer. 670 00:33:11,187 --> 00:33:13,055 I Was enjoying the explanation. 671 00:33:13,055 --> 00:33:16,619 Cuz I think a lot of, I think that's the biggest fear for a lot of believers 672 00:33:17,339 --> 00:33:21,803 is that's how they translate it in their head is, oh if I have to, live 673 00:33:21,808 --> 00:33:26,466 my faith out loud in my workspace, that means that need to be, Mr. 674 00:33:26,466 --> 00:33:27,636 Rule keep right. 675 00:33:27,664 --> 00:33:30,138 I need to be like, Oh, you guys shouldn't be gossiping about that. 676 00:33:30,678 --> 00:33:34,008 Oh you shouldn't say that. 677 00:33:34,054 --> 00:33:38,194 People have this idea that we gotta become police for everybody else's 678 00:33:38,194 --> 00:33:42,364 actions, or that during our break time we need to stand up on the desk and 679 00:33:42,364 --> 00:33:44,628 start preaching or something like that. 680 00:33:44,665 --> 00:33:49,165 I think a lot of people have a lot of confusion about what living 681 00:33:49,170 --> 00:33:51,305 your faith out loud translates to. 682 00:33:51,305 --> 00:33:53,395 Yeah, no, that's this very astute observation. 683 00:33:53,395 --> 00:33:53,785 I think. 684 00:33:54,805 --> 00:33:58,465 So you said that taking a stand. 685 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:05,395 is key to making your brand stand out and being different. 686 00:34:06,155 --> 00:34:06,765 Mm-hmm. 687 00:34:06,955 --> 00:34:07,645 people's eyes. 688 00:34:08,395 --> 00:34:09,415 Can you elaborate on that a little bit? 689 00:34:11,455 --> 00:34:15,506 I think that's a good question to follow up on the on the faith thing, because 690 00:34:15,506 --> 00:34:16,869 that's really what it's all about. 691 00:34:16,869 --> 00:34:22,599 Whatever is most important to you, your value system, your beliefs, if you're 692 00:34:22,599 --> 00:34:25,869 unashamed about it on your platform, that's what makes you stand out. 693 00:34:25,869 --> 00:34:31,209 If we're gonna confine this topic to succeeding as a brand, as a personal 694 00:34:31,214 --> 00:34:33,939 brand, especially if you're an entrepreneur, if you have services 695 00:34:33,992 --> 00:34:37,712 or products to offer to the world, the thing that differentiates you 696 00:34:37,712 --> 00:34:42,752 the most is whatever it is that you stand for, and even better, whatever 697 00:34:42,752 --> 00:34:45,962 it is that you fight for people. 698 00:34:46,112 --> 00:34:48,182 I mean, if you offer anything. 699 00:34:48,542 --> 00:34:51,278 In the world, even if you're just a so-called influencer. 700 00:34:51,315 --> 00:34:54,621 If if you just have a podcast and that's all you have and you just do it for 701 00:34:54,621 --> 00:34:56,181 fun, you're not even selling anything. 702 00:34:56,931 --> 00:35:00,951 If you wanna gain more exposure, if you want more eyes and ears on your work, 703 00:35:00,951 --> 00:35:04,911 which obviously everybody does, what's gonna differentiate you from the other? 704 00:35:04,967 --> 00:35:07,220 I don't even know what the number is anymore of all the 705 00:35:07,220 --> 00:35:08,600 podcasts that are available. 706 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,055 And then we were talking about this before we hit record as well. 707 00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:13,549 There's a lot of podcasts, but how many of them are actually active? 708 00:35:13,819 --> 00:35:16,549 But the ones that are active, they tend to be really good. 709 00:35:16,579 --> 00:35:19,729 If people stick to it, they sort of found their voice. 710 00:35:19,969 --> 00:35:25,669 And so to compete in this marketplace, and this is beyond podcast, but this is any 711 00:35:25,729 --> 00:35:28,549 public persona that you project online. 712 00:35:28,909 --> 00:35:30,739 There's so much noise out there. 713 00:35:30,949 --> 00:35:32,179 What's gonna differentiate you? 714 00:35:32,184 --> 00:35:34,159 What's gonna attract the right tribe to you? 715 00:35:34,849 --> 00:35:37,412 It's when you're unashamed of what you believe in. 716 00:35:37,772 --> 00:35:39,212 Otherwise you become generic. 717 00:35:39,522 --> 00:35:42,542 You, you preach the same message, all that surface stuff. 718 00:35:42,542 --> 00:35:44,762 Everybody set all the surface stuff already. 719 00:35:46,097 --> 00:35:51,638 The deeper, the deeper substance that really provides flavor, provides 720 00:35:51,638 --> 00:35:54,899 character to whatever it is that you're talking about as a personal brand. 721 00:35:55,319 --> 00:35:57,640 That's what you need to take a stand for. 722 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:04,048 And going beyond that, it's important when you have a brand online, that it's 723 00:36:04,053 --> 00:36:07,738 even more effective if you don't just stand for a certain set of beliefs. 724 00:36:07,738 --> 00:36:12,898 But if you actually have a fight in some issue, and it doesn't have 725 00:36:12,898 --> 00:36:15,418 to be controversial, it doesn't have to be political, it doesn't 726 00:36:15,418 --> 00:36:17,128 necessarily have to be religious. 727 00:36:17,608 --> 00:36:20,798 If you, So here's a practical example we're using right now. 728 00:36:21,038 --> 00:36:22,358 I'm in the network marketing industry. 729 00:36:22,358 --> 00:36:23,888 That's one of my, that's one of my businesses. 730 00:36:25,118 --> 00:36:29,798 My fight is against the traditional network marketing world. 731 00:36:30,863 --> 00:36:34,103 There's a lot of podcasts out there, a lot of brands out there where people 732 00:36:34,103 --> 00:36:38,999 teach you the usual stuff, how to sell, how to talk to people, how to prospect, 733 00:36:38,999 --> 00:36:42,929 how to find new candidates to sell to or to become distributors as part of 734 00:36:42,929 --> 00:36:45,209 your down line that's been set to death. 735 00:36:45,209 --> 00:36:48,699 And there are a lot of amazing people who already talk about that stuff and 736 00:36:49,829 --> 00:36:54,179 what I do differently and not like I'm the biggest in the world at this. 737 00:36:54,207 --> 00:36:58,646 There's far more, amazing people who are along the same lines as me, but my fight, 738 00:36:58,796 --> 00:37:02,336 and that's what's starting to really grow the momentum in my personal brand for your 739 00:37:02,341 --> 00:37:05,876 sovereign down line, is the fact that I'm against traditional network marketing. 740 00:37:07,016 --> 00:37:11,616 My biggest message right now is basically the answer to this question. 741 00:37:11,619 --> 00:37:12,519 It's really two things. 742 00:37:12,519 --> 00:37:15,429 Number one, I'm not afraid to talk about the role of faith 743 00:37:15,434 --> 00:37:17,854 and the role of God in business. 744 00:37:17,914 --> 00:37:20,294 I talk about kingdom entrepreneurship a lot and. 745 00:37:21,604 --> 00:37:26,044 A lot of people talk about that, but my own lived experience with my faith and 746 00:37:26,044 --> 00:37:29,554 the fact that my wife is on board with me too, that adds a completely unique 747 00:37:29,559 --> 00:37:33,184 flavor, I think, to our brand that you can't really find anywhere else. 748 00:37:33,544 --> 00:37:35,854 And tied to that is what I mentioned earlier. 749 00:37:35,854 --> 00:37:37,414 I'm against traditional network marketing. 750 00:37:37,594 --> 00:37:40,534 I say because we have the power of the internet because it's so easy to start 751 00:37:40,534 --> 00:37:43,444 a podcast, a YouTube channel, a blog. 752 00:37:43,864 --> 00:37:48,064 Why would you go out and talk to people on the street and do that one by one 753 00:37:48,064 --> 00:37:52,804 every single day and risk rejection in your face every single day when 754 00:37:52,809 --> 00:37:55,504 you can create a brand and attract the right people to you instead? 755 00:37:55,509 --> 00:37:56,884 And that's available to anybody. 756 00:37:56,884 --> 00:37:59,134 You don't have to have a lot of tech skills to be able 757 00:37:59,134 --> 00:38:00,454 to start a brand right now. 758 00:38:00,754 --> 00:38:05,719 And so, I speak out a lot about why people are still sticking exclusively 759 00:38:06,229 --> 00:38:11,000 to traditional face to face cold calling and all of that, that has its place. 760 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,378 And I don't wanna get too deep into the, the industry, but that has its place. 761 00:38:14,378 --> 00:38:18,878 But I say use the power of the internet to build a modern, sovereign down line. 762 00:38:19,058 --> 00:38:23,858 So that change in my approach to building the business, coupled with 763 00:38:23,858 --> 00:38:29,168 my unique and particular beliefs alongside my wife, creates a brand, a 764 00:38:29,168 --> 00:38:33,728 network marketing personal brand for us that you won't find anywhere else. 765 00:38:33,728 --> 00:38:38,074 You can only find this flavor of of brand of a teaching 766 00:38:38,074 --> 00:38:40,014 style for me, for me in Kimmy. 767 00:38:40,264 --> 00:38:41,464 You won't find that anywhere else. 768 00:38:41,514 --> 00:38:45,709 So, I hope that sort of gets at the heart of what you're asking, that in 769 00:38:45,709 --> 00:38:50,119 order to differentiate yourself, the best way to do that is to stop being generic 770 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,769 and really say what's on your heart. 771 00:38:51,889 --> 00:38:55,459 And don't be afraid of attaching some sort of social message or some 772 00:38:55,459 --> 00:39:00,620 sort of controversy railing against what the mainstream or what people 773 00:39:00,620 --> 00:39:04,160 traditionally believe about a topic, and then that's gonna get eyeballs on you, 774 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,659 or we're all afraid of cancel culture, man. 775 00:39:07,319 --> 00:39:08,159 Oh, yeah, yeah. 776 00:39:08,159 --> 00:39:11,129 Cancel culture is live and well, everybody's afraid to 777 00:39:11,180 --> 00:39:11,570 Right. 778 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,910 They're like, I haven't even touched on cancel culture. 779 00:39:13,910 --> 00:39:15,258 But that is a big one too. 780 00:39:15,332 --> 00:39:17,192 Everybody's afraid to stand out. 781 00:39:17,252 --> 00:39:21,209 Cuz if you break the grain too much or in an unpopular opinion that 782 00:39:21,209 --> 00:39:22,589 might be the end to your channel. 783 00:39:22,589 --> 00:39:27,878 I'm a, I'm in a mentorship slash training program for YouTube 784 00:39:27,927 --> 00:39:29,277 called Video Ranking Academy. 785 00:39:29,307 --> 00:39:32,427 That's just a tremendous program if you're gonna be a YouTuber. 786 00:39:33,102 --> 00:39:33,852 But, mm-hmm. 787 00:39:34,092 --> 00:39:34,182 . Yeah. 788 00:39:34,362 --> 00:39:35,292 They say all the time. 789 00:39:35,297 --> 00:39:37,782 It's like you, you've got, don't be afraid to be controversial. 790 00:39:37,782 --> 00:39:39,325 You gotta bring you to the camera. 791 00:39:39,325 --> 00:39:41,009 You have to bring your individual. 792 00:39:41,039 --> 00:39:43,822 Cuz there are so many people trying to get on camera, if you're not 793 00:39:43,822 --> 00:39:45,367 you, you're just gonna fade out. 794 00:39:45,498 --> 00:39:47,986 And that includes, they're very open about their faith. 795 00:39:48,010 --> 00:39:50,673 And that's something that's very obvious in their program 796 00:39:50,703 --> 00:39:52,008 and the YouTube videos they do. 797 00:39:52,058 --> 00:39:54,437 That's one of the things they say is Look, this is who we are and 798 00:39:54,437 --> 00:39:55,787 we're not gonna pretend we're not. 799 00:39:56,237 --> 00:39:57,617 And if we're not for you, that's fine. 800 00:39:57,677 --> 00:39:58,937 But this is who we are. 801 00:39:59,237 --> 00:40:00,917 This is what makes us who we are. 802 00:40:01,637 --> 00:40:05,547 And I think so many people are afraid to even approach that. 803 00:40:05,567 --> 00:40:10,901 And just be, every, everybody wanted to be popular growing up, except a few people. 804 00:40:11,711 --> 00:40:14,141 Everybody still wants to be popular, let's face it. 805 00:40:14,169 --> 00:40:17,660 We, everybody still wants to have the mass approval. 806 00:40:17,663 --> 00:40:20,033 And so they're, everybody's afraid to say something that's gonna get 807 00:40:20,033 --> 00:40:25,373 'em canceled, or, Oh, you may not like this about me, or that about me. 808 00:40:25,373 --> 00:40:26,903 So I'm gonna put that to the side. 809 00:40:26,903 --> 00:40:30,233 And yeah, I think we get a lot of generic businesses that way. 810 00:40:31,553 --> 00:40:32,213 So yeah. 811 00:40:33,173 --> 00:40:36,803 Guys, if you're getting something out of this, do the social media thing. 812 00:40:36,803 --> 00:40:40,133 You know, I hate to ask you guys, it's the worst part of this whole job. 813 00:40:40,673 --> 00:40:44,633 Whatever platform you're following us on right now, hit the like button, 814 00:40:44,633 --> 00:40:50,783 subscribe, share this podcast, share the information about Don and what 815 00:40:50,783 --> 00:40:53,033 you're learning today and help us out. 816 00:40:53,038 --> 00:40:54,713 That's how we keep making videos like that. 817 00:40:54,983 --> 00:40:58,103 Now, Don, I wanna go in a totally different direction. 818 00:40:59,723 --> 00:41:03,625 You you said some interesting things in your bio that stuck out to me. 819 00:41:04,945 --> 00:41:07,885 Why do you believe homeschooling is the future That modern 820 00:41:07,890 --> 00:41:09,235 school is doing more harm 821 00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:09,775 than good. 822 00:41:12,595 --> 00:41:14,755 I think the question sort of answers itself. 823 00:41:14,755 --> 00:41:17,725 I think that the modern schooling system, and I'll be fair, I'll be fair, there 824 00:41:17,725 --> 00:41:19,285 are a lot of great schools out there. 825 00:41:19,675 --> 00:41:20,915 They're just kind of hard to find. 826 00:41:20,986 --> 00:41:23,236 I know that that's the case there in the west. 827 00:41:23,266 --> 00:41:27,294 Cuz I, I follow a lot of the cultural and political developments, let's 828 00:41:27,294 --> 00:41:29,405 say of in America and in Europe. 829 00:41:29,585 --> 00:41:32,915 But definitely here in the Philippines, it's kind of the same story. 830 00:41:32,962 --> 00:41:36,561 One story I like to tell is I remember when I was, I don't know how old I was, 831 00:41:36,561 --> 00:41:42,348 maybe 13 or so, I was visiting the US with family and my cousin at the time, she was 832 00:41:42,366 --> 00:41:45,409 six I think, and we were all in the car. 833 00:41:45,439 --> 00:41:46,219 We were going home. 834 00:41:46,489 --> 00:41:49,339 It was late at night and she was showing off her homework to her 835 00:41:49,344 --> 00:41:53,959 dad and she said, Hey dad, my homework today, I just finished it. 836 00:41:54,026 --> 00:41:58,152 We had to write, we had to look up the you know, a list of the 837 00:41:58,182 --> 00:42:00,642 top 10 universities in California. 838 00:42:01,317 --> 00:42:06,867 And this girl is, she was six at the time, and her dad was bragging all about 839 00:42:06,867 --> 00:42:10,377 it to, to the entire family, saying, Wow, the, the things that they teach 840 00:42:10,382 --> 00:42:12,117 our kids these days, she's so smart. 841 00:42:12,117 --> 00:42:15,657 She already knows at six years old what the top 10 universities in California are. 842 00:42:15,837 --> 00:42:17,307 What was I doing at six years old? 843 00:42:17,312 --> 00:42:20,397 I was playing in the river with my cousins and my friends. 844 00:42:20,997 --> 00:42:22,707 I was, Yeah. 845 00:42:22,707 --> 00:42:28,895 And in my 13 year old brain, even I could see the, what was wrong. 846 00:42:28,925 --> 00:42:33,005 I was thinking as you should be, you should be playing in the river with 847 00:42:33,010 --> 00:42:34,955 your friends at that age, you know? 848 00:42:34,955 --> 00:42:37,265 What are you doing at six years old looking up the top 849 00:42:37,265 --> 00:42:39,125 10 universities in California? 850 00:42:39,890 --> 00:42:43,520 Which by the way, will probably be a different list altogether by the time 851 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:44,870 you're ready to go to college anyway. 852 00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:49,236 But I think that, and by the way, I'm not knocking on my, my, my relatives here. 853 00:42:49,236 --> 00:42:50,626 I know that these are good people. 854 00:42:50,651 --> 00:42:52,146 That was just the homework at hand. 855 00:42:52,151 --> 00:42:56,156 But I think that is exactly what I'm talking about schools these days. 856 00:42:56,156 --> 00:42:59,743 Let's not even talk about, I can talk all day about the indoctrination 857 00:42:59,748 --> 00:43:00,793 and all of that kind of stuff. 858 00:43:00,793 --> 00:43:03,763 We can go that, go down that rabbit hole later on if you want. 859 00:43:04,573 --> 00:43:04,753 What? 860 00:43:04,753 --> 00:43:05,263 What's that? 861 00:43:05,383 --> 00:43:06,613 We'll do that on another episode. 862 00:43:06,703 --> 00:43:07,993 We'll do that on another episode. 863 00:43:07,993 --> 00:43:11,469 But to me, the first thing we gotta think about with our schools is 864 00:43:11,739 --> 00:43:13,959 our schools actually teaching kids. 865 00:43:14,874 --> 00:43:19,404 How to think, act, speak, behave in the real world. 866 00:43:19,794 --> 00:43:22,494 And in my experience, and in the many conversations I've had with 867 00:43:22,494 --> 00:43:25,134 a lot of people, the answer is no for the majority of schools. 868 00:43:25,734 --> 00:43:30,054 And I was talking to one of my mentors, and when I say there's a lot of great 869 00:43:30,054 --> 00:43:34,670 schools out there, I was blessed to be in one of those great schools in university. 870 00:43:34,670 --> 00:43:37,551 In fact we had a mentorship system in the college that I went to. 871 00:43:37,881 --> 00:43:40,962 And so we get paired with a professor and we talk with them 872 00:43:40,962 --> 00:43:44,052 after school or in between classes on whatever we want to talk about. 873 00:43:44,202 --> 00:43:48,372 And this particular mentor, he told me that the purpose of university 874 00:43:48,372 --> 00:43:51,672 is to teach students how to learn. 875 00:43:51,912 --> 00:43:55,302 It's a place for you to learn how to learn because until you turn 876 00:43:55,302 --> 00:43:58,812 23, your mind is still basically jello, it's still being molded. 877 00:43:59,382 --> 00:44:05,800 If you're imparting in a young person under 23 from the age of six or whatever 878 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,910 it starts at that their entire purpose is to get ready for the workforce. 879 00:44:10,420 --> 00:44:13,480 Or even before that, their entire purpose is to get into one of the 880 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,670 best colleges in their locality. 881 00:44:15,940 --> 00:44:19,270 If that's the message that they're being given for a dozen 882 00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:21,010 years until they graduate. 883 00:44:21,430 --> 00:44:23,990 I mean, what, what's that gonna do to them? 884 00:44:24,029 --> 00:44:25,748 And there's a lot of directions I can go with this. 885 00:44:25,748 --> 00:44:29,003 I can also talk about a lot of the stuff that Mike Rose says about the 886 00:44:29,003 --> 00:44:33,847 problem with schools and the lack of proper of a proper curriculum to 887 00:44:33,847 --> 00:44:36,855 really get them ready in the real world with, the hard skills and all that. 888 00:44:37,065 --> 00:44:43,035 But I think suffice it to say, I think school should be used to 889 00:44:43,035 --> 00:44:45,735 teach you really the trivium, right? 890 00:44:46,185 --> 00:44:49,425 You have to learn how to think, you have to learn how to put those thoughts 891 00:44:49,425 --> 00:44:52,965 into words, and you have to learn how to speak logic, grammar, rhetoric. 892 00:44:53,415 --> 00:44:54,225 I think it starts with that. 893 00:44:54,230 --> 00:44:58,377 I think the, the ancient Greeks and the Romans got it right, Their entire 894 00:44:58,377 --> 00:45:02,637 education system, which supposedly the modern schooling system was built on, is. 895 00:45:03,072 --> 00:45:03,762 Exactly that. 896 00:45:03,762 --> 00:45:06,432 Learning how to learn, learning how to formulate thoughts properly, and 897 00:45:06,432 --> 00:45:09,612 learning how to enunciate them and to verbalize them in a way that gets 898 00:45:09,612 --> 00:45:12,998 the other person to understand how many kids nowadays know how to, how 899 00:45:13,003 --> 00:45:17,755 to speak a full sentence without going off track or stuttering or any of that. 900 00:45:17,755 --> 00:45:22,090 I if you look at, clips of kids back in even the fifties, they seem 901 00:45:22,090 --> 00:45:26,200 so much more, they seem so much older than they are because the 902 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,000 way they speak was so different. 903 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,360 It's not just a vernacular of the time, it's just the education 904 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,900 system was a little better, I think in general back then. 905 00:45:35,620 --> 00:45:40,371 Nowadays we're being taught to get into the best colleges and then after that to 906 00:45:40,371 --> 00:45:43,221 get into the best secure well paying jobs. 907 00:45:43,491 --> 00:45:46,611 Again, let's hearkening back to what I said earlier in 908 00:45:46,616 --> 00:45:47,891 the, near the beginning of. 909 00:45:49,141 --> 00:45:51,864 The uh, beginning of the conversation when I asked my professor when 910 00:45:51,864 --> 00:45:54,744 my professor asked me, or rather, What do you wanna do after college? 911 00:45:54,749 --> 00:45:55,524 And I said, Filmmaker. 912 00:45:55,824 --> 00:45:57,684 And then he said, So you don't wanna make any money. 913 00:45:57,864 --> 00:46:00,204 That's top of mind with a lot of professors, unfortunately. 914 00:46:00,594 --> 00:46:03,714 Are you going to be prepared to make money after you graduate? 915 00:46:03,744 --> 00:46:05,664 And I think that's the wrong headed way to go about it. 916 00:46:05,664 --> 00:46:09,414 So I think that parents need to take their children's education to their own hands. 917 00:46:09,414 --> 00:46:12,024 And I think the best way they can do that, unless they find a good 918 00:46:12,024 --> 00:46:14,064 school, is to homeschool your kids. 919 00:46:14,994 --> 00:46:21,054 And to homeschool them in, again, a method and approach that builds up those 920 00:46:21,059 --> 00:46:23,484 soft skills, those skills that matter. 921 00:46:23,484 --> 00:46:28,584 Not the book smarts, but the street smarts and the social intelligence, 922 00:46:28,584 --> 00:46:29,694 the emotional intelligence. 923 00:46:29,694 --> 00:46:32,064 The approach that my wife and I are using right now is Montes. 924 00:46:32,294 --> 00:46:35,499 So, Montessori mixed in with a little bit of Waldorf. 925 00:46:35,499 --> 00:46:37,991 And when our kids get to be a little bit older, I plan to throw 926 00:46:37,991 --> 00:46:41,587 in some classical education and then a great books education as well. 927 00:46:41,947 --> 00:46:46,380 But doing it the way it was done, in the olden days, let's say, I think there needs 928 00:46:46,385 --> 00:46:51,992 to be a resurgence of that way of teaching where it, the children aren't being put 929 00:46:51,992 --> 00:46:55,562 in a hurry to get ready for a job after school, but rather to teach them how to 930 00:46:55,562 --> 00:47:00,392 learn and be patient and to, here's the other part of the equation, to teach them 931 00:47:00,392 --> 00:47:02,042 according to whatever their strengths are. 932 00:47:02,047 --> 00:47:05,282 I think that's the other big problem with modern education, is that we're 933 00:47:05,287 --> 00:47:07,982 given a one size fits all way to learn. 934 00:47:08,082 --> 00:47:11,772 And that's why a lot of kids lag behind, especially creative types like myself. 935 00:47:11,772 --> 00:47:15,162 That's why I was never a fit in the workforce and I was never a fit in school. 936 00:47:15,252 --> 00:47:17,022 I don't think, I don't think I'm a dumb guy. 937 00:47:17,078 --> 00:47:21,638 I think I'm pretty smart, but if you saw me in school and the way they grade 938 00:47:21,638 --> 00:47:24,398 me according to their curriculum, you would, you probably wouldn't think 939 00:47:24,398 --> 00:47:26,631 it because I was a c b minus student. 940 00:47:27,321 --> 00:47:29,931 And I think a lot of people like myself, I think a lot of creatives, a lot of 941 00:47:29,931 --> 00:47:31,321 entrepreneurs were in the same boat. 942 00:47:31,391 --> 00:47:33,881 They didn't look like the type of person who would succeed according 943 00:47:33,881 --> 00:47:35,651 to the standards of modern education. 944 00:47:36,101 --> 00:47:38,661 And the truth is, everybody just learns differently. 945 00:47:38,663 --> 00:47:41,436 You know that joke that's going around, the valedictorian, the school, 946 00:47:41,436 --> 00:47:42,666 he'd be a great person to hire. 947 00:47:42,666 --> 00:47:47,028 And in my company later on, , yep that's a joke that's going around. 948 00:47:47,028 --> 00:47:49,120 But, I think that's unfair to the valedictorian. 949 00:47:49,136 --> 00:47:50,631 He has his own strengths. 950 00:47:50,636 --> 00:47:51,921 He has his own way of learning. 951 00:47:51,951 --> 00:47:53,722 He has his own way of expressing what he knows. 952 00:47:53,722 --> 00:47:56,542 Maybe he'll make a good engineer, maybe he'll be an amazing employee. 953 00:47:56,547 --> 00:47:58,492 We need employees, we need great employees. 954 00:47:58,852 --> 00:48:02,699 But I think that the other half, the more creative types, the ones that 955 00:48:02,699 --> 00:48:07,315 don't learn well in the conventional educational environment, which is I 956 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,435 think at least half the world, they need to be taken care of as well. 957 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,263 So anyway, without going too far down that rabbit hole there's a 958 00:48:13,263 --> 00:48:16,577 bunch of problems and shortcomings in our modern schooling system with 959 00:48:16,577 --> 00:48:21,092 a focus on jobs over, actual skills of what it means to be a human being. 960 00:48:21,332 --> 00:48:23,822 How to be a well formed, fully formed human being. 961 00:48:23,822 --> 00:48:27,104 And I think that homeschooling at this point in time might be the 962 00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:30,554 best option for many parents to bring that sort of education back. 963 00:48:31,184 --> 00:48:34,887 I think it was Elon Musk was quoted as saying I don't have a degree from 964 00:48:34,887 --> 00:48:38,037 Harvard or Yale or anything like that, but I got a lot of people who work 965 00:48:38,037 --> 00:48:40,504 for me who do exactly, there it is. 966 00:48:40,635 --> 00:48:44,265 He found what was the correct path for him. 967 00:48:44,565 --> 00:48:45,923 And I have a heart for teachers. 968 00:48:45,928 --> 00:48:47,965 I've got a lot of friends who are teachers and there are a lot 969 00:48:47,965 --> 00:48:49,555 of amazing teachers out there. 970 00:48:50,215 --> 00:48:55,075 But the system is not designed, I think, anymore for teachers to be able to teach. 971 00:48:55,495 --> 00:48:59,935 It's teach designed for them to help the kids pass the test that this coming up. 972 00:49:00,145 --> 00:49:00,485 That's it. 973 00:49:00,500 --> 00:49:02,840 The teacher has very little leeway about what they teach. 974 00:49:03,290 --> 00:49:07,121 They're required to teach whatever test has been, This is the test 975 00:49:07,121 --> 00:49:08,771 they're gonna take, and this is the one they have to pass. 976 00:49:08,844 --> 00:49:11,038 So I think it's even outta their hands, son. 977 00:49:11,488 --> 00:49:13,780 You were saying that you think we should teach our kids to 978 00:49:13,780 --> 00:49:16,540 think more like entrepreneurs and this really caught my attention. 979 00:49:16,990 --> 00:49:17,110 Yeah. 980 00:49:17,115 --> 00:49:19,777 Because my children have a business seven to 10. 981 00:49:19,782 --> 00:49:24,601 My children design t-shirts for children and sell on rebo red bubble.com 982 00:49:24,601 --> 00:49:31,591 as a platform where it's royalty income off their designs, basically. 983 00:49:32,101 --> 00:49:32,191 Mm-hmm. 984 00:49:32,431 --> 00:49:37,481 . But they also I pay them to read books and do book reports on books, 985 00:49:37,486 --> 00:49:43,371 on marketing books, on design books, on language books on entrepreneurship. 986 00:49:43,384 --> 00:49:46,304 Because these are things I wasn't taught about. 987 00:49:46,319 --> 00:49:51,089 I realized at 40 years old, I'm 42 now, I realized at 40 years old how little I knew 988 00:49:51,094 --> 00:49:55,619 about some very important things in the world, like how finances actually work. 989 00:49:55,869 --> 00:49:56,479 Mm-hmm. 990 00:49:56,559 --> 00:49:58,229 how business works. 991 00:49:58,439 --> 00:49:59,669 These are things I wasn't taught. 992 00:49:59,849 --> 00:50:00,192 I was. 993 00:50:00,198 --> 00:50:02,688 In the public school system here, And is this not something 994 00:50:02,688 --> 00:50:04,248 we were talked, taught about? 995 00:50:04,788 --> 00:50:07,078 A 401k was something that happened. 996 00:50:07,078 --> 00:50:08,429 They said that in the job interview. 997 00:50:08,849 --> 00:50:11,232 Otherwise, I was 40 before I actually looked into what that 998 00:50:11,262 --> 00:50:15,072 really was and how horrible that was. 999 00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:16,780 I just didn't know anything about it. 1000 00:50:16,806 --> 00:50:20,439 I also didn't know that I had a bunch of 401ks laying around that 1001 00:50:20,439 --> 00:50:23,049 weren't doing anything from old companies because I didn't know 1002 00:50:23,049 --> 00:50:24,429 I had to go reinvest that money. 1003 00:50:26,139 --> 00:50:29,469 So I had 401ks sitting around for years doing nothing for me 1004 00:50:29,469 --> 00:50:32,589 financially because I didn't know I had to go do anything about it. 1005 00:50:33,729 --> 00:50:36,028 They just supposedly moved with me, until I found one that had been 1006 00:50:36,033 --> 00:50:42,124 sitting for six years in a, just a cash fund waiting for me to invest it. 1007 00:50:42,814 --> 00:50:45,934 I'm like, Wait, this has been sitting here like this for six years. 1008 00:50:47,314 --> 00:50:49,714 It didn't make me any, It didn't make dividends. 1009 00:50:49,714 --> 00:50:52,415 It didn't make, it didn't grow on capital gains or anything. 1010 00:50:52,453 --> 00:50:57,283 So I started figuring out how much I hadn't been taught, and I started trying 1011 00:50:57,283 --> 00:51:01,256 to sit down with my kids, aside from their homeschooling even, because they're 1012 00:51:01,256 --> 00:51:05,156 getting some great stuff out of their homeschooling, but at this age, I'm 1013 00:51:05,161 --> 00:51:10,520 trying to teach them to learn about the idea of, how do you create a business? 1014 00:51:10,700 --> 00:51:15,193 Their friend did eliminate stand and they, Oh, we should do lemonade stand. 1015 00:51:15,193 --> 00:51:17,752 I was like let's talk about why that's not their best idea. 1016 00:51:17,783 --> 00:51:19,943 Let's talk about having to have stock. 1017 00:51:20,633 --> 00:51:23,323 Let's talking about having to invest in stock beforehand. 1018 00:51:24,263 --> 00:51:27,563 What happens if you have a really good day and you run out all of it, but you 1019 00:51:27,563 --> 00:51:30,413 could still sell for the rest of the day, but now you don't have any stock? 1020 00:51:31,163 --> 00:51:32,120 They're like we should do coffee. 1021 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:32,930 Coffee's popular. 1022 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,690 Okay, you're gonna, where are you gonna buy all the coffee? 1023 00:51:36,140 --> 00:51:37,130 What pots are you gonna use? 1024 00:51:37,130 --> 00:51:38,670 How are you gonna keep it warm outside? 1025 00:51:38,670 --> 00:51:40,538 I started asking all these questions. 1026 00:51:41,543 --> 00:51:45,353 And then comparing it to the idea of royalty income or 1027 00:51:45,353 --> 00:51:47,303 getting paid for your ideas. 1028 00:51:47,436 --> 00:51:49,056 And they're like, Huh. 1029 00:51:50,556 --> 00:51:52,986 But they're asking questions and we're having conversations 1030 00:51:54,006 --> 00:51:56,316 that you don't generally have with seven and 10 year olds. 1031 00:51:56,321 --> 00:51:56,826 And it's great. 1032 00:51:56,826 --> 00:51:57,666 I'm loving it. 1033 00:51:58,446 --> 00:52:00,606 And I saw that you were talking about we need to teach our kids 1034 00:52:00,606 --> 00:52:02,136 to think like entrepreneurs. 1035 00:52:02,706 --> 00:52:05,646 I think that word, not everybody truly gets that word. 1036 00:52:06,156 --> 00:52:06,366 Yeah. 1037 00:52:06,426 --> 00:52:08,508 Because it's being used really heavily. 1038 00:52:08,508 --> 00:52:10,671 It's become a very it word in the last couple years. 1039 00:52:11,481 --> 00:52:12,741 Everybody is an entrepreneur. 1040 00:52:12,891 --> 00:52:13,671 I'm an entrepreneur. 1041 00:52:13,701 --> 00:52:14,121 No, I'm not. 1042 00:52:14,165 --> 00:52:14,579 I'm not. 1043 00:52:14,819 --> 00:52:16,529 I wouldn't mind heading that direction. 1044 00:52:16,529 --> 00:52:20,609 And I want to be heading in that direction with my business as I grow right now. 1045 00:52:20,609 --> 00:52:22,739 That's not a fitting term for what I am doing. 1046 00:52:23,519 --> 00:52:23,759 Yeah. 1047 00:52:23,883 --> 00:52:26,133 So can you talk about that just a little bit? 1048 00:52:26,133 --> 00:52:27,363 We'll start to wrap this up. 1049 00:52:27,843 --> 00:52:28,083 Yeah. 1050 00:52:28,083 --> 00:52:31,113 There's a lot I can talk about with regards to what it really means to 1051 00:52:31,113 --> 00:52:35,533 be an entrepreneur, again, using network marketing as sort of a, a 1052 00:52:35,533 --> 00:52:39,513 way to to illustrate this point the common language being used or the 1053 00:52:39,513 --> 00:52:42,813 common marketing language being used to attract people into a network. 1054 00:52:42,813 --> 00:52:46,503 Marketing companies, be your own boss, become an entrepreneur, when really 1055 00:52:46,508 --> 00:52:48,513 network marketers aren't entrepreneurs. 1056 00:52:48,513 --> 00:52:50,733 Here's something that I also stir a lot of feathers with. 1057 00:52:51,933 --> 00:52:55,053 I always tell people, if you get into a network marketing business, you're 1058 00:52:55,053 --> 00:52:56,523 not entrepreneur, you're a salesman. 1059 00:52:56,973 --> 00:52:59,763 And that really gets on their nerves because a lot of people hate 1060 00:53:00,063 --> 00:53:01,833 being described as sales people. 1061 00:53:02,013 --> 00:53:05,403 And I always say, if you don't, if you don't accept the word sales, 1062 00:53:05,433 --> 00:53:08,103 if you think it's an icky thing to be a salesperson, you're never 1063 00:53:08,103 --> 00:53:09,423 gonna succeed in this business. 1064 00:53:09,933 --> 00:53:13,368 And if you wanna be an entrepreneur, I think the best way to do that in the 1065 00:53:13,368 --> 00:53:17,808 modern world is to create that brand and to offer services in front of your network 1066 00:53:17,808 --> 00:53:19,278 marketing business to build a tribe. 1067 00:53:19,278 --> 00:53:20,838 And again, that's a whole different thing. 1068 00:53:20,838 --> 00:53:22,070 But I think I made my point. 1069 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,061 There are different kind of like you said, entrepreneur, sort of 1070 00:53:25,061 --> 00:53:28,781 a catchall term when really an entrepreneur is really just a person 1071 00:53:28,781 --> 00:53:32,201 that creates, a person that innovates, a person that thinks out of the box. 1072 00:53:32,501 --> 00:53:35,810 And before I forget your original point, you were talking about teaching 1073 00:53:35,815 --> 00:53:39,300 your kids how to become entrepreneurs or to think like entrepreneurs. 1074 00:53:39,690 --> 00:53:45,780 And to me, I don't even like to limit entrepreneurship to the actual profession 1075 00:53:45,780 --> 00:53:48,718 or career of being a business person. 1076 00:53:48,718 --> 00:53:53,068 Because when I say entrepreneur, and this might only be my definition, 1077 00:53:53,533 --> 00:53:58,393 But when I say entrepreneur, I think of anyone who's able to think 1078 00:53:58,393 --> 00:54:00,073 out of the box and be creative. 1079 00:54:00,103 --> 00:54:03,414 In fact, I always say that artists and entrepreneurs, creatives and 1080 00:54:03,419 --> 00:54:05,130 entrepreneurs are cut from the same cloth. 1081 00:54:05,430 --> 00:54:09,540 These are people who don't allow whatever is established, the established 1082 00:54:09,540 --> 00:54:13,237 boundaries to dictate the way that they proceed or make decisions. 1083 00:54:13,237 --> 00:54:14,690 So here's a good example. 1084 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:19,318 In our company, in our network marketing company one of our business partners, 1085 00:54:19,408 --> 00:54:22,558 his son grew up in our community. 1086 00:54:22,563 --> 00:54:24,778 So he was trained to think creatively. 1087 00:54:24,778 --> 00:54:28,667 He grew up not being he grew up and he wasn't raised, and he 1088 00:54:28,667 --> 00:54:32,507 wasn't put into a school where you're trained to be an employee. 1089 00:54:32,807 --> 00:54:37,457 So this guy decided to actually go into corporate life after 1090 00:54:37,457 --> 00:54:39,587 school, and he loves his work. 1091 00:54:39,592 --> 00:54:41,177 He doesn't wanna be his own boss. 1092 00:54:41,237 --> 00:54:44,627 He likes working for somebody else, but. 1093 00:54:45,227 --> 00:54:49,097 There was a point in his career where he realized that he's being underpaid 1094 00:54:49,097 --> 00:54:52,187 and spending too much time at the office for something that doesn't 1095 00:54:52,187 --> 00:54:55,397 need time at the office for as long as he's being put in the office. 1096 00:54:55,517 --> 00:54:59,431 So he walked into his his boss's office one day and then he said, You 1097 00:54:59,436 --> 00:55:03,841 know what, Instead of being full-time on a salaried position in, in, in 1098 00:55:03,841 --> 00:55:11,041 this role, can you give me a flexible work from anywhere schedule and pay 1099 00:55:11,041 --> 00:55:13,621 me contractually or per project? 1100 00:55:14,161 --> 00:55:15,541 Something along those lines. 1101 00:55:15,991 --> 00:55:24,421 So in short, this guy managed to cut his working time down by at least two thirds. 1102 00:55:24,661 --> 00:55:28,561 He's working two thirds less than he did before, and he's being paid more or 1103 00:55:28,566 --> 00:55:31,921 less the same per month because of the nature, the particular nature of his 1104 00:55:31,921 --> 00:55:38,131 work gets paid a lot per project, and now he has time to be able to do the 1105 00:55:38,131 --> 00:55:39,601 other things that he wants to do in life. 1106 00:55:40,381 --> 00:55:42,151 That is a guy who thinks like an entrepreneur. 1107 00:55:42,736 --> 00:55:45,669 He has no intention of ever starting a business, on his own. 1108 00:55:45,674 --> 00:55:46,629 Maybe things have changed now. 1109 00:55:46,629 --> 00:55:49,659 That was a few years ago, but I think you catch my drift here. 1110 00:55:50,109 --> 00:55:53,199 Entrepreneurship is just a way of thinking, a way of approaching life, 1111 00:55:53,499 --> 00:55:58,779 of seeing something and then saying, Okay, I see that for what it is, 1112 00:55:58,779 --> 00:56:00,229 but why does it have to be that way? 1113 00:56:00,299 --> 00:56:02,909 I see the contract and I see that everybody else adheres 1114 00:56:02,909 --> 00:56:04,829 to this contract, but why? 1115 00:56:05,009 --> 00:56:06,449 What is the rationale behind it? 1116 00:56:06,509 --> 00:56:10,079 And if there's a better way to accomplish the goals that are set out before me 1117 00:56:10,229 --> 00:56:14,789 without having to adhere to the current constructs and rules, I'm gonna ask 1118 00:56:14,794 --> 00:56:18,749 if that can be a thing, I'm gonna go into my boss's office and ask for a 1119 00:56:18,749 --> 00:56:21,809 different arrangement because I can still get the job done, perhaps even 1120 00:56:21,809 --> 00:56:23,909 better, doing things differently. 1121 00:56:24,659 --> 00:56:27,899 And so that's entrepreneurship on a practical level. 1122 00:56:28,244 --> 00:56:30,914 By a guy who never wants to start a business in his life. 1123 00:56:31,274 --> 00:56:35,504 And I think if you train kids to think that way, to thank God at the box, to look 1124 00:56:35,504 --> 00:56:40,064 outside the boundaries of what everybody's telling them should be the norm. 1125 00:56:40,574 --> 00:56:43,184 You are gonna raise very, very successful kids. 1126 00:56:43,184 --> 00:56:46,184 It doesn't matter what they get into, they're gonna find a solution 1127 00:56:46,304 --> 00:56:50,024 to get the best out of whatever endeavor they decide to pursue. 1128 00:56:51,014 --> 00:56:52,124 What's next for Donna bod? 1129 00:56:54,374 --> 00:56:57,674 Right now, it's just a matter of doubling down on the brand. 1130 00:56:57,674 --> 00:57:00,644 Again, just getting used to all the new hardware and all the new 1131 00:57:00,734 --> 00:57:05,080 platforms that my wife Kim and are using to build up the sovereign brand. 1132 00:57:05,650 --> 00:57:11,055 And really nothing the pitch here except I, I wanna bring on more amazing guests 1133 00:57:11,060 --> 00:57:17,770 on the Sovereign podcast and to really get our network marketing venture really 1134 00:57:17,770 --> 00:57:21,354 super charging the brand by Being cons, being a little more consistent with the 1135 00:57:21,354 --> 00:57:24,853 podcast because as I mentioned earlier, we're planning a big move in a, in a 1136 00:57:24,853 --> 00:57:28,357 couple of months and I've been taking my eye off the ball a little bit with 1137 00:57:28,462 --> 00:57:30,532 my, your Sovereign Down Line podcast. 1138 00:57:30,532 --> 00:57:32,332 So I really wanna get back on track with that. 1139 00:57:32,338 --> 00:57:33,106 And that's really it. 1140 00:57:33,106 --> 00:57:36,856 Just create a bigger presence and find more amazing people to speak 1141 00:57:36,856 --> 00:57:39,596 to because I know that that's gonna pay dividends in the long run. 1142 00:57:39,596 --> 00:57:40,346 So that's really it. 1143 00:57:40,346 --> 00:57:44,096 Just a lot of brand building and a lot of getting used to this whole new process 1144 00:57:44,101 --> 00:57:48,362 of juggling business with fatherhood, with a two year old who thinks he's 1145 00:57:48,362 --> 00:57:51,812 a teenager, that that's really, it's just adjusting to this new world. 1146 00:57:52,292 --> 00:57:52,652 Okay, 1147 00:57:53,342 --> 00:57:56,432 is don abba.com the best place to find you? 1148 00:57:56,942 --> 00:57:57,212 Yep. 1149 00:57:57,812 --> 00:57:58,712 Don abad.com. 1150 00:57:58,717 --> 00:58:01,592 You can also send me a message on Instagram. 1151 00:58:01,592 --> 00:58:02,432 It's at Real. 1152 00:58:02,432 --> 00:58:03,212 Don Abad. 1153 00:58:03,272 --> 00:58:04,532 At Real Don Abad. 1154 00:58:04,892 --> 00:58:05,162 Bless. 1155 00:58:05,167 --> 00:58:06,422 You're a spammer or scammer. 1156 00:58:06,422 --> 00:58:08,162 I reply to every single message. 1157 00:58:09,197 --> 00:58:10,067 Guys, we'll have 1158 00:58:10,127 --> 00:58:13,757 all of Don's links in the description of the show notes, just like always, 1159 00:58:14,117 --> 00:58:17,217 cuz we wanna make sure that you guys can find Don wherever he is. 1160 00:58:17,217 --> 00:58:21,845 So all that will be right there, including podcast links and your 1161 00:58:21,845 --> 00:58:23,375 YouTube channel and everywhere else. 1162 00:58:24,005 --> 00:58:26,105 Go over and check out what Don is doing, guys. 1163 00:58:26,545 --> 00:58:29,765 This is a man who is right here at the heart of the Fallwell man. 1164 00:58:29,765 --> 00:58:33,365 He's on the front lines trying to be a dad, trying to be a husband, trying 1165 00:58:33,365 --> 00:58:38,165 to be a man, trying to live his terms of how he thinks his life should be 1166 00:58:38,255 --> 00:58:40,685 exercising his faith and his freedom. 1167 00:58:41,045 --> 00:58:41,465 Guys. 1168 00:58:42,035 --> 00:58:42,995 Check out his podcast. 1169 00:58:42,995 --> 00:58:46,685 I was listening to it earlier and as always, be better tomorrow 1170 00:58:46,685 --> 00:58:48,815 because of what you do today and we'll see you on the next one. 1171 00:58:49,745 --> 00:58:50,195 This has 1172 00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,235 been The Fallible Man Podcast. 1173 00:58:52,835 --> 00:58:56,135 Your home for everything, man, husband, and father. 1174 00:58:57,005 --> 00:58:59,255 Be sure to subscribe so you don't miss a show. 1175 00:59:00,155 --> 00:59:06,515 Head over to www.thefallibleman.com for more content and get 1176 00:59:06,515 --> 00:59:08,015 your own Fallible man gear.